Bloomberg to De Blasio...and Fruits and Nuts :zman: on the Left Coast

[Plastic-Foam Containers, if the Mayor Gets His Way By Michael M. Grynbaum] "...Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, whose regulatory lance has slain fatty foods, supersize sodas, and smoking in parks, is now targeting plastic foam, the much-derided polymer that environmentalists have long tried to restrict..." Full text: Plastic-Foam Containers, if the Mayor Gets His Way Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

[Mayor Bloomberg to stoners: Small amounts of pot no longer get a night in jail by Tina Moore & Dan Hirschhorn] "New York State is also considering decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana...." Full text:
Mayor Bloomberg to stoners: Small amounts of pot no longer get a night in jail Eph 5:18, Jn 8:36, Re 13:17


Global Warming

Be Not Drunk with Wine by John MacArthur

The End is So Near... (right click, open) by Darrell Ferguson

Now earbuds. Eccl 10:2

Bloomberg Takes Aim at Loud Music -- On Your Earbuds

Response to comment [from other]: "... The horror! An informational campaign?"

What area of life do you think Bloomberg does not want to control? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Bloomberg: Government Probably Shouldn't Force Exercise

Judge Halts New York City Soda Ban

Response to comment [from other]: "Since you live in Colorado, I can understand why you'd be so upset that NYC will have an informational campaign about hearing loss from earbuds."


I live in New York, too.


"Oh, I didn't realize that. Part of the year or something? In NYC or further upstate? Military?"


Why would it matter?


"Wow. Curiosity. Conversation. I lived a great part of my life in NY. But no matter."


Think we should welcome the opinions of others who have not lived here?


"If NYC has an informational campaign on the dangers of hearing loss from earbuds, why in the world would anyone from somewhere else care?"


It's about control not earbuds or soda. You don't have to live in New York to have an opinion. Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10


Spartan Women

New York Soda Ban Struck Down, Bloomberg Promises Appeal

"People are dying everyday..."

By abortion?

"...This is not a joke!" ~ Bloomberg

Hysteria is a trait of the Left.


Tactics of the Left

"Is an informational campaign about the danger of hearing loss from earbuds really communist?"


Why is he going back to court over soda? Re 13:17


Putin urges revival of Soviet-era fitness tests

Mississippi passes 'anti-Bloomberg' bill

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "Seems reasonable to me. Exactly why is banning Styrofoam a bad thing?"


Why doesn't he want to limit the size of margaritas?


Substance Abuse

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "You really expected serpent to tell the truth?"


Ad hominem

Mayor Bloomberg seeks ban on New York's in-store cigarette displays


Now Mayor Bloomberg wants to protect you from social media?

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Zoo quote: I read the drivel, but I couldn't find anything that said Bloomberg wants to control social media. Please show us.] "It looks like she is controlling you."


2 Pe 2:22


NYC schools ban butter

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "You say that a lot, I wonder why?"


I say that when someone commits an ad hominem fallacy. [] is an abbreviation for any fallacious argument, FYI.

A few housekeeping items:

I ask people to make their best argument first so that I am able to respond to that.

If you only reply with a fallacious argument, I am less likely to read the rest of the post. TOL no longer has an e-mail notification so if you do post again; most often I will not see the reply.


Response to comment [from a Christian]: "I guess Serpentdove is fine with legalizing pot, since he didn't respond to my argument against his stance?"


Didn't see it. No, I'm not for legalizing marijuana. Eph 5:18

As a reminder, instant email notification is inop.

"The Bible says that Christians shouldn't be busybodies..."

Lk 19:13

But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters [1 Pet. 4:15].

"Peter puts murder right down with gossiping and criticizing others; he makes no distinction between them at all. Paul did the same thing. Actually, Paul and Peter and James agree on everything. They are all preaching the same gospel that produces the same kind of a life.

Peter says that we ought not to be suffering for our own sins. God never tests you with sin, my friend; He never tests you with evil, as James makes clear to us in his epistle. Peter says, “Let none of you suffer as a murderer.” McGee, J. V. (1997). Thru the Bible commentary (electronic ed.) (
1 Pe 4:15). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

1 Pe 4:15. Peter stressed that persecution was no excuse for lawlessness. Christians were not to retaliate (3:9). Physical violence was not to be met by murder. Confiscation of property was not to be compensated for by theft. No matter what their trials, Christians were to do nothing that would justify punishing them as criminals (cf. 2:19; 3:17). They were not to suffer as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. Even interfering in other people’s affairs is out of place for Christians (cf. 1 Tim. 5:13)." Raymer, R. M. (1985). 1 Peter. In J. F. Walvoord & R. B. Zuck (Eds.), The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures (J. F. Walvoord & R. B. Zuck, Ed.) (1 Pe 4:15). Wheaton, IL: Victor Books.


"Serpent- I'm not sure how that's a refutation of what I said. The Bible is pretty clear that there are indeed different types of sins with different levels of punishment (At least, if you reject the purgatory explanation, and I do reject it.) I can't remember the text off hand, and its late, but its the one where Jesus says something along the lines of: "He who knows, and still commits sin, will be beaten with many stripes, he who doesn't know will be beaten with few..." (Note that that's a paraphrase.) Jesus also tells some Israelite town that "On the Day of Judgment it will be better off for Sodom and Gomorrah than for you." Note that there's clearly a different of degree. I have no doubt Sodom and Gomorrah were damned for their sins, but the Israelite town was even worse off."

All sins are not equal.


Are All Sins Equal?

"All that said, its pretty clear as well that Paul doesn't consider any kind of sin, including being a busybody (Which all theocrats are, by definition) anything to kid around about."


We aren't to be busybodies. We are to occupy until he comes.


"...no work at all, but acting like busybodies. 2Th 3:11..." Thomas, R. L., & The Lockman Foundation. (1998). New American Standard exhaustive concordance of the Bible: Updated edition. Anaheim: Foundation Publications, Inc.

"...περιεργάζομαι [periergazomai /per·ee·er·gad·zom·ahee/] v. From 4012 and 2038; GK 4318; AV translates as “be a busybody” once. 1 to bustle about uselessly, to busy one’s self about trifling, needless, useless matters. 1A used apparently of a person officiously inquisitive about other’s affairs." Strong, J. (2001). Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon. Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.


"I didn't say all sins were equal."


Right.  I agree with you.


"To me its a personal liberty issue."


Are you a pothead?


"...The golden rule applies."


That ol' chestnut.

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets [Matt. 7:12].

"All right, when you meet somebody new, how are you going to treat him? You don’t know—you are not to judge—but if he is a dog or a swine, you had better know. You have to beware of phonies today. So what do you do? Make it a matter of prayer. “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.” This is the principle on which you should operate. “Therefore” is the most important word in the Golden Rule. It relates the Golden Rule to that which precedes it. That is, it postulates it on prayer. It all comes together in one package. Don’t lift out the Golden Rule and say that you live by it. Understand what the Lord is talking about. Only as we “ask, seek, and knock” are we able to live in the light of the Golden Rule." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 34: Thru the Bible commentary: The Gospels (Matthew 1-13) (electronic ed.) (102–103). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.


"I may not like what someone is doing, but since I wouldn't want someone to interfere with my life if I wasn't hurting anyone else, I'll grant other people the same respect."


A Libertarian is an immoral conservative (Enyart).

"...[T]hat is honestly what I believe the Bible teaches."


You'd be wrong.

How ya doing with that Golden Rule?


Christian Ethics


Latest load of garbage from Mike’s ‘bully’ pulpit

Bloomberg: ban sparklers Jer 7:6, GWT

Bloomberg’s Latest ‘Nanny’ Move: Pushing People to Take the Stairs

[Former U.S. Rep. Allen West’s prepared remarks for Western Conservative Summit] "...[W]hen you start choosing government, and not God, you start believing some nutty things.

See, if you believe that the words “separation of Church and State” are in the Constitution, but the right to bear arms isn’t – you might be a liberal.

If you believe in the right to choose an abortion, but not the size of your soda – you might be a liberal.

If you believe in getting government out of the bedroom, unless it’s taxpayer subsidized birth control – you might be a liberal.

And if believe that Barack Obama can lower the ocean seas and “heal the planet,” you must be a liberal!..." Full text:
Former U.S. Rep. Allen West’s prepared remarks for Western Conservative Summit


Boomberg: New 'Health' Plan: Deliberately 'Slow' Elevators Make People Climb Stairs

Bloomberg Hints at Banning Air Vapors

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "...[P]eople should be free to burn alive in a building fire if that is their choice."


You don't care about intrusions on American's freedoms? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "I believe we were talking about fire safety, smoke alarms, fire codes...something of that sort? I'm not exactly sure how any of that is a commie intrusion."


Why punish people who take the elevators? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Bloomberg's Latest Proposal to End Obesity: Make Elevators Slow So People Take the Stairs


Bloomberg Backlash: 2 Colorado lawmakers recalled for gun laws support

Wasted $350,000 on Colorado Recall


Can You Spot the Vital Gun Safety Rule Violated at Mayor Bloomberg’s Press Conference on Massive Seizure of Firearms?

"I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house...'" ~ Joe Biden

Bloomberg launching crusade against tanning salons


Update: Bloomberg Moves Forward With Styrofoam Ban

"They want to control you down to the last big gulp." ~ David Horowitz

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "I was more hitting SD here, but if government were to force people to have "accessible stairs" or install slower elevators, that would be an infringement on freedom."


If the government should control your healthcare as they are doing, why shouldn't they control your food? How about your travel? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Jn 8:36


Wide Load Wants to Control Your Food


De Blasio Is Elected New York City Mayor in Landslide

[:banned:Banned or would have started new thread (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).]

Bloomberg to Force Flu Vaccines for All NYC Children

Also see:

Greek values

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "That will be overturned i bet, if he gets it passed, just like it was overturned in Texas to force to parents to vaccinate their girls for hpv."


What does that say to your daughter? Ex 20:14

SNL: Jane you ignorant slut


NY police officer threaten to ticket someone for washing a car in their own driveway  

Plastic-Foam Container Ban Approved by New York City Council

New York Council Adds E-Cigarettes to Smoking Ban

Shrinks Sound Alarm Over Bloomberg's Micro-Apartments


Bloomberg Claims Credit for Saving 'Literally' 9,200 Lives


NY Gov. Cuomo: Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Marriage Conservatives 'Have No Place In The State'

De Blasio won't plow rich neighborhoods on the Upper East Side
'...[G]etting back at us' by not plowing: UES residents

De Blasio Backs Cuomo '100 percent': Tells Conservatives Get Out of New York

Bloomberg's New Job: UN Climate Change Envoy

Critics: Cuomo's 'Tax-Free' Plan for NY Is Not So Tax-Free

NY to issue identity papers to illegal aliens

Mayor cracks down on charter schools run by rival


Bloomberg believes he's earned his way to heaven

Police Turn Their Backs on Mayor During NYPD Funeral


DeBlasio's wife wears jeans to officer's funeral


Big Government: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Shuts Down Subway for a Little Snow

"We've reworded the national anthem--the land of the free--better safe than sorry. If that's the society you want, it leads to totalitarianism. The bigger the state, the more childlike you become. It's a natural tendency not to want to grow up." ~ Dennis Prager

Obama’s Peter Pan Economics

De Blasio to close schools for Muslim holidays  Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Ge 16:12, Jer 7:6 GWT

De Blasio gets green cards for illegals despite Obama amnesty injunction 2 Thess. 2:7, 8

Woman to become firefighter despite failing fitness test


Paper: You're 45% more likely to be murdered in de Blasio's Manhattan  

Empire State Building turns green for Muslim holiday  

No More Arrests for Public Boozing, Urinating in NYC Eph 5:18, 1 Co 13:5

NYC to Fine Businesses That Don't Use Correct Gender Pronouns

Mt 19:4, Deut 22:5

Also see:

Homosexuality will destroy this and any country and needs to be recriminalized


New York City Lets You Choose From 31 Different Gender Identities Mt 19:4, Deut 22:5

Lk 17:26

NYC Dirty

...Litter, Loiter, Urinate in Street 

NYC chain restaurants will now be required to use ‘salt icons,’ warning customers of too much salt

Also see:

Wide Load Wants to Control Your Food
Spartan Women
Is Michelle Obama Transgender?


New York City Spending $$$ to Boost Transgender Ideology Mt 19:4, Deut 22:5

NYC spiral

...Crackheads, bums, hookers


NYC subway rider smokes crack

...Homeless druggies invade playgrounds  

NYC Mayor calls for more Muslim migrants Ge 16:12, Jer 7:6, GWT

NYC: No longer safe for seniors to go out 2 Thess. 2:7, 8, Lev. 19:32; Prov. 16:31

Record number in NYC homeless shelters 

NYC mulls ban on flushable wipes  

The real reason for New York City's traffic nightmare  


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You all will come up with any excuse to avoid the real reasons people become homeless. Whatever makes you feel like you are better than somebody else, I suppose


A high percentage of the homeless are on drugs or alcohol.


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[Substance abusers Re 9:21] A lot of them get that way when they are on the streets. It takes the edge off of being homeless you self righteous, presumptuous fool.


Ad hominem (Eph 4:14).

New York State to establish hate crimes task force  


N.Y. Busted for Promoting And Covering Up Student Lessons Centered On Sympathizing With Islamic Terror Ge 16:12, Jer 7:6, GWT  

NYC government publishes app that helps more people easily collect food stamps


New York City Submits to Islam 

De Blasio compares self to Edison, Ford, Gandhi 

Democrats Are Under a Spiritual Death Watch Because Liberals Cannot Know Jesus

NY Guv Cuomo Pardons 18 Aliens Up for Deportation 

Vid: California Under Jerry Brown – Homeless Camp Explosion

Companies in New York ‘open’ to new payroll tax system: state official

Town to Fine Drivers $200 For Taking GPS-Guided Shortcuts 

NYPD outraged over the demand of the NYC mayor to forcibly expand the number of Muslim recruits in their ranks

California Considers $1,000 Fine, Jail for Waiters Offering Plastic Straws

Cuomo Sues Trump: Tax Cuts Hurting Illegals 

California says it will ban crude from Trump offshore drilling plan   

Turnstile justice? Manhattan eases up on fare jumpers

California Gov. Endorses Dangerous Toilet to Tap Drinking Water 

Leftism and Degeneracy: A Beautiful Thing

Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley is a ‘totalitarian place’

NYC TB Surge

NY Churches Install Metal Detectors

Has the California backlash against liberal craziness finally begun?

Gov Cuomo Gives 35,000 Felons Right To Vote In New York Mere Months Before Election