Supreme Court: Marriage

[American Family Association Tim Wildmon] "Tomorrow, April 28, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments for and against redefining marriage in America. The very institution of God's design for marriage as only between one man and one woman is on trial. As hard as it is to believe, nine people will decide if our nation will honor God and obey Him, or turn its back on the most fundamental building block of society and on God himself. This will be the most important decision in the history of America. I'm urging you to do just one thing...Pray. Here is a link to four prayers to help your prayer time. Please, for the sake of our nation, Pray." Gen. 2:18–24, Ps 50:18, Heb 13:4

"What is honored in a country is cultivated there." ~ Plato, Republic


Exception Clause for Divorce

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "With all due respect to Tim Wildmon, is he not aware that we as a nation quit respecting God decades ago?"

We have. Joel Rosenberg recently said he believes that our country is already under judgment--past the point of no return.

Interesting times.

[Will the War of Gog and Magog happen before or after the Rapture? By Joel Rosenberg] "The truth is we simply do not know the answer for certain, because Ezekiel does not say. Many of the theologians I have cited in this book believe the war will occur after the Rapture. In the novel Left Behind, Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins describe the War of Gog and Magog as having already happened before the Rapture takes place. In The Ezekiel Option, I also chose to portray the war occurring before the Rapture.

In Matthew 24:14, Jesus says, “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come” (NASB). We also know from Ezekiel that God will use the War of Gog and Magog to display his glory to all nations and to pour out his Holy Spirit, particularly on the nation of Israel. As a result of the entire world seeing God defend Israel from the onslaught of the Russian-Iranian coalition, a dramatic spiritual awakening will occur around the globe. It would certainly be consistent with God’s heart for humanity that he would cause this cataclysmic moment to occur before the Rapture in order to shake people out of their spiritual apathy and/or rebellion and give them at least one more chance to receive Christ as their Savior before the terrible events of the Tribulation occur.

But let me be clear: I believe that the Rapture could occur at any moment, and I would certainly not be surprised in any way if it occurred before the events of Ezekiel 38 and 39 come to pass.
Christian theologians speak of the “doctrine of imminence.” This means that according to the Bible there is no prophetic event that has to happen before Jesus snatches his church from the earth. That is, the Bible teaches us that we should be ready for Jesus to come for us at any moment. I fully believe that. But it should be noted with regard to this doctrine that while no major prophetic event has to happen before the Rapture, that doesn’t mean no such event will happen first. Perhaps the clearest evidence of this truth is the rebirth of Israel. This major prophetic event was foretold in Ezekiel 36–37, yet its fulfillment happened before the Rapture. Thus, it is certainly possible that other events—such as the events of Ezekiel 38–39—could happen before the Rapture as well." Prophecy Q & A

Ready to Go ~ Republica

"There are a lot of people out there that share Rosenberg's defeatist attitude.  I'm glad that I'm not one of them."

He is witnessing men coming to Christ in the Middle East (Lk 15:10).

[2 Timothy 4:7]

It takes more than posting homo photos to engage in the battle (1 Pe 2:12).

"So Rosenberg's defeatist attitude is global, and just not in places like Colorado?"

He speaks at many churches (via satellite in the States now).  His message is one of encouragement not discouragement (1 Thess 5:11, Ro 11:25).

"So you, like GFR7, just go to my thread for the pictures sd?"

There are mental images I wish I could un-see (Phil 4:8, Isa 25:8).  


Mt 24:32-51 Matthew Henry

Mt 24:36–41 Bible Knowledge Commentary

Texas lawmakers consider unprecedented anti-gay marriage bill Heb 13:4

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Do you vote Republican?"

Hell no (Pr 8:36, 23:7) .

"Give me a break about Jeb Mush or Ruby Tuesday." ~ Michael Savage


"The purpose of marriage is to protect the child."

 A childless marital couple has no purpose?

"Marriage: Purposes of: Man’s happiness (Gen. 2:18), Continuance of the race (Gen. 1:28), Godly offspring (Mal. 2:14, 15), Prevention of fornication (1 Cor. 7:2, 9), Complete satisfaction (Prov. 5:19; 1 Tim. 5:14). Denial of: As a prophetic sign (Jer. 16:2), For a specific purpose (Matt. 19:10–12), As a sign of apostasy (1 Tim. 4:1–3), To those in heaven (Matt. 22:30). Figurative of: God’s union with Israel (Is. 54:5), Christ’s union with His Church (Eph. 5:23–32)." Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (pp. 400–401). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

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chrysostom View Post
The purpose of marriage is to protect the child.

TrakeM View Post
Exactly, that's why we require all married couples to have children and why it's a crime to have children if you're not married! Oh wait...

You're pro-bastard? Do you live in the ghetto?

In The Ghetto ~ Eric Cartman

Co-habitators less likely to get married than ever new study Mt 15:19, 1 Co 6:9-11

Supreme Court Approves Sodomite Marriage

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "It is done. Sorry to shout but I just want to emphasize everything that is taking place must occur for the ultimate establishment of the one world government/economy/religion to be established, as foretold in God's Word. Disbelieve that if you want but as you see us heading more and more in that direction, I'll let you explain to us how the most amazing coincidence in the history of mankind is taking place."

Isa 55:6

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "You got what you voted for..."
Mt 11:24

Response to comment [from other]: "SCOTUS has ruled in favor of marriage equality. Excellent!"

If it feels good, do it. Matt. 15:19, Pr 16:18

2 Thess. 2:7, 8 Here comes polygamy. Deut. 17:16–17, 1 Kin. 11:1–4

'Love Is Love,' Obama Says After High Court Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

Love is love lust is lust 1 Tim. 6:9

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Two of the judges were Obama appointees."

Isa 40:22-23

Response to comment [from a pinko commie]: [Rare sheep ‘sacrificed to Satan’ on Dartmoor Luke 4:6–8; 2 Thess. 2:3, 4] ...The man of sin,antichrist,booger man(what ever we want to call him) cannot come unless there first be "a great falling away" and then (only when there is a falling away) will he be permitted to come. Just like the other examples they obey,they stand,,,if they don't they fall victim to a cruel ruler. So as long as there are people in the world who are Christian the man of sin "cannot come",,,again when the world completely descends into this "great falling away",,,well then they will have the king and government over them they wanted,,,that old serpent satin.

2 Ti 1:7

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Exactly.  Liberals in these conversations always avoid the word lust. They simply roll it into 'Love' which is a disservice to the actual meaning and the rest of us that are also restricted to using the English language."

If one is willing to commit adultery/fornication ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:13]), he is also willing to manipulate words (2 Cor. 4:2, 2 Pet. 3:16). The Left (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10) is better at language if one prefers to live in delusionland (Ps 10:1–11, Lk 12:17–19, Lk 13:23–30, 2 Thess. 2:1–12, 2 Pet. 3:5, 16, 17).

"I was talking about one side of the argument limiting the vocabulary they are using (often times purposefully by the intellectual elite of one group, so their less bright members have simple slogans to chant)."

Spoon-feeding the wicked (Jer 5:31, 2 Ti 4:3).  “One with God is a majority” ~ Martin Luther

"In this case liberals, the group I was addressing, like to boil arguments down to selfish humanism."

If it feels good do it. 2 Tim. 3:2-4, Phil 2:21

"...I certainly believe gay people can love each other."

Sodomites ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:13]) do not love one another. People do not love others when they sin against themselves and another (1 Co 6:18). Love wants what is best for his neighbor (Mt 22:39, Judg 21:25, Jn 10:10).

"...'[R]ights' cases that the current struggle for 'gay rights' liken themselves to."

Men have the right to obey (Ac 5:29). Obey God and live. Don't and you won't (Re 20:14).
"You can build on him (1 Cor. 10:4) or stumble on him (1 Pet. 2:8). He'll be a stepping stone (Ps 18:2) or stumbling stone (1 Cor 1:23, Luke 20:18)." ~ Adrian Rogers

"And sticking with the topic of how this affects our speaking English.  What do members here think about using another word now for holy marriage? Stick with the term "matrimony" perhaps? The pairing "holy matrimony" always comes to mind for me."

Our word is marriage (Gen. 2:18–24). Their word is rebellion (Heb 13:4). God does not leave covenant relationships (Mt 19:6, Rom. 7:2, 3). A marriage is worthy of his presence (John 2:1–11). A sham is not. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 13:13, 19:1–28). He did not parTy harTy with them.

Response to comment [from other]: "Protecting children was never the primary function or reason for marriage."

Marriage is honorable with or without children (Heb 13:4).  God wants godly offspring (Ge 1:28, Mal. 2:14, 15).  Marriage was given not just to the Christian but to the world (Gen. 2:18–24).

"If it were, child bearing would be a mandatory requirement for marriage."

Right. Man and wife make a family (Gen. 2:18–24). Children are a blessing (Ps 127:3) but not necessary.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Ancestry, descendants, and the natural family were always the foundation of marriage, and many infertile couples are bitterly angry that gays capitalized on their misfortune to redefine marriage."

A Sodomite can't redefine anything (Rom. 7:2, 3). Laws come from God (Ge 2:7, Ro 2:15) not man (Ge 11:4, Ro 1:18). This is God's universe (Ps 103:19). He rules and reigns (Heb 13:4).

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? [that is, to bring Christ down from above:] [Rom. 10:6].

"He talks about ascending up to heaven to bring it down, or going down to hell and bringing it up. My friend, the righteousness that Paul is talking about—he quotes from Deuteronomy 30:11–14—is available!" McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (Romans 9-16) (electronic ed., Vol. 43, p. 43). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:
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You are responsible for your blatant disregard of those very children you claim to care about if you do not hold husbands and fathers to the same standard as you hold wives and mothers.

Both are held to the same standards (Gal. 3:28).

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Agreed.  Equality means equal responsibility for men and women based on gender.  But equality doesn't mean individuals are equally responsible for crimes.  Blaming the victim is an example of trying to press equality too far.

Parents are responsible to raise their kids right (Pr 1:8, 22:6). In general when they raise them right, they get godly kids.


Walking in the Way of a Father by Charles Stanley

Robots -- get married Matt. 19:5

What are the implications of the Supreme Court’s marriage decision? Four key things to consider.

First Sodomite Divorce Firm Opens In Philly


A transsexual marrying under false pretenses

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). :vomit:

Nathan Collier: Montana man inspired by same-sex marriage ruling requests right to wed two wives Ex 20:14

Millions Reclaim the USA for God on July 4th and All Month Gen. 2:18–24

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  "I read the prayer. Says "Americans are God's people..." Do you need to be a citizen?"

1 Jn 3:12, NIV

"If you are one of The Donald's nasty Mexicans, are you not one of "God's people"?"

God's people could care less about ethnicity or skin color. In fact, when we say that we are called microagressive. Christians believe we are one race--the human race (Ac 17:26). In fact, when we say that we are called microagressive.

Explain where the Donald got the facts wrong. You thought all illegal aliens were valedictorians?

"Why are Christians so frightened of homosexuals?"

Why are God-haters so frightened of Christians? Ac 20:20 Would you like to make Christianity illegal?

"I don't want to make Christianity illegal, just don't want its ignorance shoved down the peoples' throats."

That's what all the adulterers said (Ex 20:14) who started all of this (Pr 6:14).

"...The social sexual revolution of our time." ~ Hugh Hefner 1 Co 6:9-10

"Hugh Hefner gives a lot of money to women's organizations to feel good about himself." ~ Dennis Prager 1 Tim. 2:9

Chief Justice Roy Moore Says Supreme Court Justices Can be Impeached

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Sure. It was tried once, initiated by the House in 1805 before the Senate killed it. All you need is a serious violation of law or ethic. You can also raise an amendment to the Constitution, but both are arduous tasks and this one is a fool's errand..."

Or don't appoint lawless men in the first place. 2 Thess. 2:7, 8

"They aren't lawless until adjudicated as such, your inclinations notwithstanding."

Who cares what I say? What has God said? Gen. 2:18–24, Heb 13:4

Laws come from God (Ge 2:7) not government (Ge 11:4).

"...Laws come from God not government."

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

Laws come from God (Ge 2:7) not government (Ge 11:4).

"Not if..."

God said it. That settles it (Prov. 29:2).

[You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).] "I always do..."

You do (Eph 4:14).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [To TH] "Wise up. "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-" If the Government fining a small baker $130,000.00 for not baking a gay union cake, is not reducing that baker under absolute despotism, I don't know what is."

Jn 8:36, Eph 6:13

Democrats Introduce Bill to Ban ‘Husband’ and ‘Wife’ as ‘Anti-Gay’ Words Gen. 2:18–24, Heb 13:4

"You removed the scripture from my quote."

Response to comment [from other]: "The same government agency awarded a Christian $325,000 from his employer for discrimination on the basis of religion. Where was your outrage then?"

Why would that be outrageous? Christians are the only ones fit to lead (Titus 2:15).

Sodomite divorce Gen. 2:18–24


A transsexual marrying under false pretenses

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

We Will Not Bow, Part 1 by John MacArthur

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Those who desire to de-sexualize marriage, wish to end the cultural foundations, deeply embedded in our civil society, history and culture, and enthrone the new, ‘partnership’ understanding, which assumes that any legal distinction between same sex and male-female unions is arbitrary and discriminatory. Put simply, the law declares that all those who hold to the conjugal understanding of marriage are little better than racists. They do this for one purpose, the economic reality of such strange structural arrangements."

It's not about homos. It's about destroying marriage (Heb 13:4).

"My point is most relevant today. Do you understand what I said?" 

I do. I disagree. Even if the whole culture agrees with them, Sodomites won't experience joy (Is 57:21). 

This isn't about their finances. This is about their idolatry (2 Cor. 6:15–18) and the lack of fulfillment that follows (Ga 6:8).

Texas Man Proposes to Another Man in ‘Church’ Despite United Methodist Ban on Same-Sex ‘Marriage’

Global Coalition Calls for Nine Days to Pray and Fast for the Sanctity of Life, Marriage, and for the Synod on the Family October 16 - 24, 2015 2 Chron 7:14

'I do, I do, I do:' Brazilian female trio get hitched

Marriage is for one man and one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "With none of the responsibilities, no doubt.  Like finding a suitable man and learning to love him till death."

Covenent schmovenent they say (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Heb 13:4).


Disposable Culture

Response to comment [from a Buddhist]: [Abolishing marriage] "[H]ow [would] this contract would be enforced sans legal means?"

Marriage has been instituted by God (Gen. 2:18–24).

Father, Adopted Son Seek Right To Marry Each Other Gen. 2:18–24

Man 'marries sex doll' Gen. 2:18–24


Dozens of people mistake robot for real woman - and they think she's 'sexy'

Sodomite marriage "legal", but not on some tribal lands Gen. 2:18–24

Mississippi same-sex divorce granted Gen. 2:18–24

The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).

Rabbi ‘kidnapped, tortured’ husbands into granting wives divorce Gen. 2:18–24, Mt 19:8 ESV, Rom. 7:2, 3

Couple seeking to undo their divorce get turned down Matt. 19:6, 1 Cor. 7:10–17

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "A question for the anti-gay marriagers here: if a different term was used for homosexual unions (like mirage, I guess) and all the same rights and benefits that heterosexual married couples receive were extended to these eloped homosexuals, would that be cool with you?"

Who cares about what's cool with me? What has God said? Gen. 2:18–24, Eph. 5:23–32, Ac 5:29

“Behavior is the mirror in which everyone shows their true image.” ~ Goethe

University moves to fire professor for defense of man-woman marriage  

Erotic Sex? It's a Gift from God Says the Pope Prov. 5:15–20

2016 March for Marriage Set for June 25 in Washington, DC

Judge blocks Mississippi anti-LGBT 'religious freedom' law  

Father Dies Minutes After Dancing with Daughter at Her Wedding Ruth 1:11–18 Woman's Best Friend Jer 16:2

Obama Removes Wedding Ring

Mexico- Thousands protest against same-sex marriage proposal

'DivorceHotel': Check In Married, Check Out Divorced -- All In Weekend Jer. 16:2

Black Flag "Roach Motel" Commercial Heb 13:4
paxvobiscum View Post
The first reason for marriage is sociological and that was to put the sex genie in a bottle.
You must not have read Song of Solomon.

The song of songs, which is Solomon’s [Song 1:1].

“I suppose one could liken this book to a piece of folk music, or more likely to an opera. These canticles are put together to give us a glorious, wonderful story. This is one of the methods God used in speaking to His people. It rebukes asceticism, but it also condemns lust and unfaithfulness to the marriage vow. This is no soap opera. It is not a cheap play in which the hero is a neurotic, the heroine is erotic, and the plot is tommyrotic. Rather, it is a beautiful song of marital love.” McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: Poetry (Ecclesiastes/Song of Solomon) (electronic ed., Vol. 21, p. 111). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

The government should stay out of what is "marriage".

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Men make it up as they go along (Heb 13:4).

Serpent D...

Do you know how to use the ‘reply’ button?

A law is defined as an ordinance of reason for the common good…

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Make it up as you go along (Re 22:11). Most people do (Mt 7:13-14).
Madonna Offers to Remarry Sean Penn for $150,000 Deut. 24:4


Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper by John Piper
quip View Post
Else religion would feel entitled to define/enforce marriage by their exclusive interpretation...

God's interpretation (your word ) is the correct interpretation. Gen. 2:18–24
For me...absolutely.

It wouldn't be for you if it weren't for everybody (Eph 4:14).
paxvobiscum View Post
The government should stay out of what is "marriage"...

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29, Ps 33:12, Heb 13:4).
Daniel1769 View Post
The government should not be involved in marriage at all.

The law does not regulate morality. The law regulates immorality (Lev. 20:10–12).


The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart
paxvobiscum View Post
I think the issue was defining what is a marriage--if  society states...
God states (your word ) what marriage is (Gen. 2:18–24). Societies make it up as they go along (Ps 33:12, Jer 16:2, Heb 13:4).
Daniel1769 View Post
Our government is the biggest negative effect on society. They're going to somehow help society?

They don't. That's the point (Is 5:20, Jer 16:2, Heb 13:4).

Why This $130 Wedding Ring Set Went Viral Heb 13:4
The Horn View Post
Humans created marriage, not God.

God created marriage (Gen. 2:18–24). Honor it (Heb 13:4) or don't (Re 22:11).

No whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph 5:5).

Married Italians will no longer have to pledge to be faithful Pr 20:6
Crucible View Post
Nearly half of all marriages end in divorce, and the remarriage...


Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper by John Piper
Crucible View Post
...rate devalues whatever 'family' there is after initial divorce.  It's a sad state affairs, which does more damage then homosexual marriage could ever do.  If you 'divorce' someone and get involved with another person, then it's adultery...

That's correct (Rom. 7:2, 3).


Cuckoo birds

aCultureWarrior View Post
...[D]o you fix an invaluable institution that is in need of repair by redefining it?

There is no redefining it. Marriage is instituted by God not man (Gen. 2:18–24, Ac 5:29).

Woman in  love with robot and wants to marry

 We don't hurt anybody' 

It's National Marriage Week--Campaign to Promote Marriage and Its Success 

A 70-year-old love story celebrated with a 166-year-old wedding dress Ps. 45:13–15

Couple with Down Syndrome to Celebrate 22nd Anniversary: 'I've Never Seen Love Like It' Mt 18:3

Ever Wondered Why There’s an 'R' in 'Mrs'? 

Young Americans Are Killing Marriage Jer 16:2  

Tolpuddlematyr replied
No generation has the right to impose its views and mores on the next…

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).


Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper by John Piper

juglans1 replied
Nothing in any of that for a need to have a legally signed marriage contract.

Are you shaking up with your concubus or concubine? Ex 20:14

vibise View Post
I think that the abandonment of marriage is not linked to any age group, but is a socioeconomic issue...

If you enter into marriage with the mindset of a businessman, sure (Mal 2:14, Jer. 16:2). If you enter into marriage for what it is--a covenant between: God, man and wife (Matt. 19:6):straight:--then you stick it out in sickness and in health for richer or for poorer.

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As evidenced in this thread, our decadent culture and law have gutted the meaning of marriage. Millennials aren't getting married because they have been convinced that it is meaningless.

The culture calls it meaningless (Jer. 16:2). God doesn't (Heb. 13:4).

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[...Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] ...[D]on't think you can use man made laws to impose them on the rest of us.

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). God's word is the final word (Ac 5:29). :Poly: You can say gravity doesn't exist, too; but, try jumping off a cliff. :dizzy:

America View Post
What's changed is that it's become more inclusive in the US, and that angers Christian conservatives.

Marriage is what God says it is (Gen. 2:18-–24, Matt. 19:6) :listen: not what you say it is. Make it up as you go along if you'd like (Heb. 13:4). Payday someday (1 Co 6:9-10).

Denial of marriage is a prophetic sign of the end times (Jer. 16:2).

HRG View Post
[Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18-24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] Not in a modern country.

"New world order is old disorder (Ac 15:18)." ~ Adrian Rogers
Tolpuddlematyr View Post
...I have managed to live without God for over sixty years. Your threats are toothless.

My threats are irrelevant (Ro 12:19). God's threats are relevant. You thought he wouldn't follow through on his promises to you? Ga 6:7, 1 Co 6:9-10 Hell is excited to meet you (Is 14:9).
Burlow Beanie View Post [To another member pro-Sodomite] What right are you talking about specifically? The right to call it marriage?

The left makes it up as they go along (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10). They do not see themselves as accountable to God (1 Pe 4:5). They will find out soon that they are not God (1 Co 6:9-10). :burnlib:
The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. Romans 1:28–32 (NKJV)

America View Post ...Marriage is what the US States and (to a lesser extent) the Federal Government say it is.

Go with that (Ps 50:21). :idunno: See if that flies at the Great White Throne (Re 20:11). :Popcorn: Don't be standing too close to me though. I don't want to get singed. :burnlib:

Go with that.

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

Go with that (Ps 50:21).

You and I both do, as it's the state and federal governments which make the laws.

God’s law is higher not lower than your vain imagination (Prov. 12:20, Jer. 18:12, Mt 5:48, Jn 17:16).

See if that flies at the Great White Throne.

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

See if that flies at the Great White Throne (Re 20:11).

Non-existent chairs aren't worth worrying about.

One of those (Ps 14:1). Good luck with that (1 Cor. 3:11-–15, Re 20:15). :juggle:

America View Post God’s law is higher not lower than your vain imagination.

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

God’s law is higher not lower than your vain imagination (Prov. 12:20, Jer. 18:12, Mt 5:48, Jn 17:16).

[Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] [I]t's your imagination which is demanding authority, not mine.

:yawn: My imagination is irrelevant (Eph 4:14). What God has said is relevant (Heb 13:4).

Your imagined laws aren't higher than mine.

Let’s see who’s right at the Great White Throne which you also claim will not exist (Re 7:9).

...[L]et alone the state's or the federal government's.

Nations are judged. Judges are judged. You will be judged. Being a God-hater, you have no comprehension of justice (Pr 28:5). You will.

America View Post [Y]our vain imagination which is demanding authority, not mine.

:yawn: My imagination is irrelevant. God’s law is relevant (Mt 5:18).

Your imagined laws aren't higher than mine…

You are your own god and your law is based on your whim. Meanwhile the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End has a reality check on the horizon for you (Rev. 1:8, 17, 18; Rev. 21:6, 7).

[L]et alone the state's or the federal government's.

What’s your complaint? You’ve got the lawless government you always wanted and you’re still not happy? We just want you to be happy (2 Cor. 13:3–5). :sigh:

The latter define marriage; your imagined deity does not.

How many lives have you destroyed so far? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Heb 13:4 :juggle:

Burlow Beanie View Post
...[B]efore you start judging people look at your own 'sins'...

:yawn: Pr 31:9

I do not recognize any authority in calling some words that people wrote 'scripture'.

Good luck with that (1 Co 6:9-10, Re 22:11).

America View Post
Your imagination is what you're pushing...

"We give out the word of God. What men do with it is their business." :Poly: Ac 20:20 ~ J. Vernon McGee

America View Post
We give out the word of God.

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

"We give out the word of God. What men do with it is their business." :Poly: Ac 20:20 ~ J. Vernon McGee

Written by men.

If you're right (Ps. 119:142, 151, 160), then you have nothing to worry about (Rev. 21:8). :idunno:

Couple struggling to conceive discover they're biological twins


Exception Clause for Divorce

Divorced couple, new spouses win co-parenting at daughter's soccer game Is 5:20, Jer 6:15, Heb 13:4


The Conquering Christ by Adrian Rogers

Couple Married for 69 Years Dies 40 Minutes Apart, Holding Hands Gen. 2:18–24

Kirk, Anne Douglas' Deut. 24:4

lightbeamrider replied
Known billionaires like Trump have their pick for the most part. There is no shortage of females who find him incredibly interesting, married or not. The rest of us, not so much.

He's a winner (Heb 13:4). :freak:

[Y]ou don't have to be married to have children and on the other hand it is kind of selfish to be shacking up if the couple has bio children. It saves the child some embarrassment since their friends may come from traditional households.

Reprobates defile the land (Gen. 1:27, 28, Mal. 2:14, 15).

The school [where] I work is young professional and they are mostly married?

"Mostly." ~ Eric Cartman Deut. 22:13-19

...with kids, law abiding...?

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).

jgarden View Post
How ironic that many of those who demand a return to traditional marriage voted for Donald Trump - the least monogamous president in history!

How'd you like to be in eternity having to tell everyone that you voted for him?   Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14 

Elderly Couple Married 67 Years Has Hospital Beds Moved Together to Spend Final Days Side-By-Side  

Conqueror View Post

An annulment is anarchy before God and ridicule of civil authorities

 Rome (Jud 11) :olinger: likes to pretend all sorts of things (Heb 13:4). :dizzy:


Roman Catholicism

Ric View Post

[Annulment is anarchy before God] Indeed!

Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18-24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3). :straight:

relling View Post

The civil authorities in the United States who have legalized abortion and same sex marriage were "appointed by God".

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).

relling View Post

Let us pray for one another and love one another.

Love your neighbor enough to tell him the truth (Ac 20:20). :Poly:

Conqueror View Post

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities.  For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God (Ro 13:1).

God's way is the best way. :thumb:
When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do? Ps 11:3

Conqueror View Post

Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ to deliver the promised salvation despite the circumstances.

Unlike you (2 Pe 2:1), I trust his word (Ps. 111:7, 8).

As a reminder Conqueror is number 78 on Satan, Inc. in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.  :burnlib:

Conqueror View Post

You have already explained how you trust in the papacy's tare filled canon...

:yawn: Strawman (Eph 4:14).


Did Constantine Decide What Books Belong in the Bible?

Ric View Post

[Marriage is one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18�24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).]

Tell me something I don't know.

Not my job. My job is to state the obvious every day (Ac 20:20). :skeptic:

Ric View Post

Okay, Captain Obvious...

"Repetition is the mother of pedagogy." ~ Dennis Prager

Reply to HamrickCE

Why are you trying to re marry when you're already married? :freak: Rom. 7:2, 3


Jesus on Marriage and Divorce Michael Youssef   

My former wife committed adultery.

So did my husband (Jer 3:1).  That doesn’t make us unmarried (Matt. 19:6).  That makes us bummed out (Heb 13:4). :sigh:

I divorced her because she admitted to adultery.

That doesn’t make you free to marry a concubine (Matt. 5:32).  You are free to remain celibate (Mt 19:11).  Get your portrait on God’s walls in his mansion (Is 56:4-5). 

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney  

So, no... I'm not married.

Is your wife alive? :smokie:Rom. 7:2, 3

I'm also not trying to get married. Trying implies and active attempt. I'm waiting on the woman God showed me I would be married to some 16 years ago in a dream.

He’s not interested in fulfilling your prophecy.  He’s interested in you remaining faithful to him.  Be faithful to your wife even though she’s evil (Ruth 1:14–18 ).  She has a name.  It’s not ‘what’s her name’ or ‘ex’ (Ge 9:6).

Men make it up as they go along.  :dizzy: Honor God (Ps 51:4). :straight:

 My ex-husbands girlfriend…

Is he still alive?  The, he’s not ‘ex’.  God gave him a name.  It is not ‘x’. Rom. 7:2, 3  The woman’s proper title is not “girlfriend”.  It is adulteress (Matt. 5:32).

…[C]ontinually wants to challenge my children's faith…

We can’t unscramble eggs (Jer. 16:2).

…He has a girlfriend (live in) that is a blasphemer and is constantly asking my 15 and 11 year old boys to defend their faith and Christian walk.

I’m sorry one of you filed for divorce.  Whomever that is—you’re evil (Mal 2:16).

…[W]we must pray for her.

That’s the most coherent things you’ve said all day (Mt 5:44).

They get angry and frustrated with her because she insists on challenging them on Bible knowledge…

You send them out as missionaries when you don’t even defend the faith yourself (Heb 13:4).

…I feel that I can only pray for spiritual protection on them…

Beg the Lord to forgive you (Heb 13:4).  They will go in the rapture (along with any child in the adulteress’ womb).   

…[W]hen they go to their dad’s house and I do not know how to prepare them for this kind of battle.

The Lord is going to rescue them from all of you (Heb 13:4).

Has anyone else had to go through this?

You live in Sodom aka America, don’t you? Jer 16:2   

I am great full for being out of a marriage that was soul crushing…

It’s all about you (Heb 13:4).

… I am remarried to a good man…

Good men don’t commit adultery with married women (Rom. 7:2, 3).

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney    

George View Post

[Private messages]

I found out that private message--isn’t so private.

Reply to Hamrick

[Ge 3:16 discussion]

Wrong, crotch humorist (Enyart). 

You've caused your wife to become a serial adulteress--evil.  If you find out that you've married your cousin (e.g. close kin:  Kevin bacon, Kyra Sedgwick--that was to what Jesus was referring [Mt 5:32]).

Ge 3:16 is a prophecy.  Her first desire should be toward the Lord, but it will be toward her husband.     

Truth7t7 View Post

[Serial adulterer Prager] ...He is on his third marriage.

He has one wife (Rom. 7:2, 3) :dizzy: and two concubines (Luke 16:18).   

simplicio View Post

Should the state recognize common law marriage?

Why?  :idunno: The fornicators didn’t even bother to get married (Heb. 13:4).  

simplicio View Post
No. And as far as I know the constitution does not forbid homosexual marriage.

Do the Sodomites ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) have to enter into every discussion?

JamesTheLesser View Post

I would think people today would need to be concerned about the institution of marriage...

You'd be wrong :5020: (Jer 16:2).:reals:

Reply to HamrickCE

What God showed me…was that I would be married….Explain it to me.

You are married.  :hammer:You just kicked her to the curb.  :reals: God’s right (Matt. 19:6).  You’re wrong.  Maybe you thought you were advanced dating (e.g. prostitution) :idunno: [Jer 17:9].   

God is good.  He didn’t allow you to defile yourself as you’d planned (Rom. 7:2, 3).

On our five year wedding anniversary, I served her with divorce papers.

You’re evil (Mal 2:16). 

davidbrainerd View Post

Divorce law is a practical matter

Not too practical for the spouse you kicked to the curb (Heb 13:4). :idunno: Prepare to meet your maker (Heb 10:30).

She has a job so what's the problem?

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). See how that works out for ya (Heb 12:29). :burnlib:


Jeffrey Dahmer and Son of Sam got saved.

Georgetown LGBT Lobby Calls to Defund Pro-Marriage Student Group 

Reply to HamrickCE

If I wanted to get married so bad [sic], I would take care of it on my own.

You are married (Rom. 7:2, 3). :dizzy:  You just kicked her to the curb because you’re evil (Mal 2:16).  Don’t defile another woman (Luke 16:18). 

If your videos aren’t mocking the watchmen, they are advertisements to this poor woman—Marry me now for $19.95 and you, too can sail on my cheap boat.

I’ve been single for ten years…

You’ve been married for ten years (1 Cor. 7:10–17).  See how that delusion works out for you at the Great White Throne when you appear without your esha.  :hammer:The Consuming Fire (Heb 12:29) is eagar to meet you (Is 14:9). :burnlib:

We got divorced in 2007.

Do you mean you divorced her? Mal 2:16   

Reply to Winfrey  

[Won’t go to a homosexual so-called wedding]

But you will go to a second marriage (Rom. 7:2, 3) when one’s spouse is still alive (Ps 50:18, Matt. 23:6, 7). :reals:

Reply to JP D'LemurLover  

[Toney serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3)]  Wow, you must be God…

Something about do not commit adultery that you don’t get? :smokie: Ex 20:14


Paul’s Final Remarks, Rare Qualities Michael Youssef

Judge Rightly Is Not Some Guy's Name Bob Enyart

…This is a free gift of God…

For those who repent (Acts 2:37, 38). :hammer: You have not repented.  We know love (1 Jn 3:14).  :straight: You know wrath abides (Ps 7:12, Jn 3:36, Heb 10:27). :hobo:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3), his home decorated for Christmas (refuting watchmen vid: VLOG- Merry Yule | Lying about Christmas | Grace in a pagan religion Hammrick CE)] Call me a pagan…

Ps 127:1


Essentials for Growth and Godliness Pt 1A, Pt 1B MacArthur   

Reply to HammrickCE

[God told him to commit adultery :freak:]

God does not tell you to do something that violates his law (Rom. 7:2, 3) or his word (Jer 14:15). :dizzy:

America View Post

[Marriage is: one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18-24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] A description isn't a definition…

God, not you (Heb 13:4), :reals: defines marriage (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). 

America View Post

[God defines marriage as: one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18-24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] Man, not God, says that…

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).

HeraclitusHeraclitus replied

…I'm sorry, marriage is a legal thing not what one's magic book says.

You’ll find out soon that you’re not God (Ps 50:21, Heb 10:31). :juggle:

You cited legal prescience…

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).  Ask John the Baptist.  He cites God’s law and was murdered for it (Matt. 14:3–12).

…[S]odomy is a legal term as well.

A Sodomite (heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) is one who engages in sexual sin (Gen. 13:13).    

Tim H replied

[Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29).] Not in this country, they don't.

This country was founded on Judeo-Christian values (Ps 33:12).  Presently, you’ve got it your way (Mic. 7:3).  :idunno: Enjoy it while it lasts (Re 22:11). :burnlib:

Tim H replied

[America] It's a secular democracy.

It’s a moot point.  It’s gone (Eze 38:2-3).  

Tim H replied

My constitution guarantees freedom from religion too.

False (Eph 4:14). You have the freedom to love Jesus or stab him in the back (Ge 2:17). :idunno: The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).  

GISMYS View Post

[Jack Van Impe] Yes! Jack says...

Problem with Jack :freak: is--he doesn’t believe in capital punishment for deviants (the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ). He must be nicer than God. :idunno:

Nicer than God by Bob Enyart

The Bible's Criminal Code  by Bob Enyart  

GISMYS View Post

...[L]et Jack help you see the truth...

He should find an honest job.


Capital Punishment  

Couple married 71 years die minutes apart 

Reply to WILDflower

…[T]hey both have issues…

Toney is a serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3). Hamrick is thinking about  becoming one (Heb 13:4). :freak:

Reply to Blue Vireo

“…[N]o one can stand before the Lord without His forgiveness and grace. Extend that to your brother.”

If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him (Lk 17:3). 

Reply to

…[B]oth of your channels are turning into the Jerry Springer Show.

Neither one of these men honors marriage (Heb 13:4).      

Reply to jewels G

Unforgiveness will eat you up.

If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him (Lk 17:3).  

Reply to Cie

If they are children of God, He will get them sorted out.

It will all come out in the wash—or not.

Whoever is of God hears the words of God. :straight:The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God (Jn 8:46–47). :reals:

Reply to Horvath

[“I was married for five years…We had Michelle…I left...”, quotes, Joel 2:25: I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, “She’s gonna wanna see daddy’s side of things…Locust, demons--they tried to destroy my relationship with my daughter.”

Is that like the devil made me do it? Ps 68:5, Mal 2:14-16, Rom. 7:2, 3, Heb 13:4 

Reply to Potter


You spiritualize clouds?  :squint: 1 Thess. 4:16, 17

[Adultery] “Trump has never done anything wrong in that regard as far as I can tell.”

He’s :greedy: a serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3). :squint:

All of the traditional ideas of marriage—which didn’t come from God by the way.

Marriage was instituted by God (Gen. 2:18–24). 

They came from men who want to control men and women.

No one is interested in controlling you (Ga 5:23). :granite: Control yourself (2 Pet. 1:6).

Liberty is freedom.

“You are free--to obey... If you break the law, we’ve got a law for you.” ~ J. Vernon McGee

…with responsibility.

You don’t sound too responsible. :idunno: What have you done to a woman? :nono: Heb 13:4

Paul said all things are lawful for me...

You’re no Paul.  Paul was married and widowed or abandoned.  Paul passed from death to life (1 Jn 3:14).  If you have not loved your brother (how much more—your wife), then what reason would you have to believe that you belong to Christ?  He is love (1 Jn 4:16).

Multiple relationships—that’s not right either—depending on the circumstance.

Under what circumstance is it right to have two wives?  :peach::peach: When you’re the president?  :greedy: One in the White House and one living down the street in a hut? :peach: Rom. 7:2, 3

Some of you will say God created one woman for one man.  That’s the first level of meaning.

Whoso hath found a wife hath found a good thing (Pr 18:22).  You’ll notice it does not say wives (Gen. 2:24). :dizzy:

Marriage is:  one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).

…There’s another meaning entirely.

In Sodom (heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) aka America (Ge 13:3).  :idunno: Specifics, Bob. 

You’re free to commit adultery (Ex 20:14).  :idunno: See how that works out for you at the Great White Throne (1 Co 6:9-10, Heb 13:4). :burnlib:

They bishop shall be the husband of one wife.  Ok, I’m not a bishop.

No one would accuse you of being a leader.  :idunno: We, the church, are kings and priests (Re 5:10).  :straight:You stay outside with the pigs where you belong (Re 21:27). 

The prodigal son cleaned up and went to the Father’s house because he was a son.  :straight:The prodigal pig remained outside in the mud where he belonged (McGee). :reals:

“A hog has never said 'I need a bath." ~ Adrian Rogers

How does all of this related to Trump?  Do not judge him—the relationships he’s had with women.

Pr 31:9

He has not disobeyed any commandment.

Ex 20:14

Not one in that regard.

Ex 20:14

That is a commandment—you shall not bring false witness.

The Donald is a serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3).  :greedy: You cast your lot with adulterers (Ps 50:18b).  :idunno: You’ll answer for it (Heb 13:4, Ro 14:12).

They...make sex look like it’s evil.

Sex outside of marriage is evil (Ex 20:14). :hammer:

Don’t fall into that trap.

We won’t (Is 5:20).

Righteousness is the right use for something.

God gave you your eyes for one use.  You’ve used them for another.  God gave you your hands for one use.  You’ve used them for another.  God gave you your feet for one use.  You've used them for another.  God gave you your penis for one use.  You’ve used it for another.  God gave you your heart for one use.  You’ve used them for another.  Good luck with that (Prov. 2:16–19).

"The greatest sin is sinning against love." ~ J. Vernon McGee

No, things are a lot different than we see.

Agreed.  You’re going to see what God thinks of marriage (Is. 54:5, Eph. 5:23–32).   At the same time, you’re going to learn that you’re not God (Ps 50:21). :burnlib: 

Reply to Patrick

[Harvest Bible Chapel Denver] I know things aren't right.

I don't go there anymore.  Pastor Jeff is evil.

What happened?  Talk to me please.

He said: “If you came to Christ and you’ve been a drug dealer, Paul’s not saying remain in the situation you’re in—just keep selling drugs for the Lord.” Link

I’m confused because the week before he told serial adulterers (Rom. 7:2, 3)  to remain in their marriages (Matt. 14:3–12) so that grace can abound (Ro 6:1).  He said if you believe otherwise, you’re immature (Matt. 19:6).  I’m too immature :Poly: to attend his brothel (Ps 50:18); but, I know a few unrepentant, serial adulteress who were tickled pink (2 Ti 4:3).  :BRAVO: You heard them laughing, didn’t you?  Pr 1:26, Ps 50:21. Link

I didn’t know that pastor Jeff had these views on marriage.  I could have been golfing all this time. Sometimes it takes a while for their horns to show—but they do show (2 Pe 2:1).:reals:

My prayers matter.  I'll take them to a sanctuary that's not defiled (Deut 22:24).

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney  

Reply to P

...You know my situation (similar to you yours).  I never want anyone to go though what I went through and with pastors like Jeff cozying up to evil (Ps 26:5)—they will if they believe his lies (2 Ti 4:3, Heb 13:4). :reals: 

Our small group just discussed all of this.  A couple there said that they were thinking of leaving the church, as well (no relation to my concerns :idunno:)...    


...I had addressed false teaching before with pastor Jeff (Calvinism, settled view, etc.).  He didn’t budge Noway (a product of Dallas Theological Cemetery :freak:).  Those weren’t hills to die on; so, I let it go.  Marriage; however:straight:—that’s a hill to die on.    


GISMYS View Post

Liberals have made a mess of the world!

That's what they do for a living (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10). :idunno: 

Roy Moore Files Lawsuit for Voter Fraud Tracy Beanz  

Reply to Hamrick

[Divorces wife, compares self to Job :o]

Learn to speak in the active rather than passive voice: (e.g. 'I divorced my wife' rather than 'when we got divorced'). Mal 2:16

Reply to roypotterqa

^ A male not prepared to meet his maker (Ga 6:7, 1 Co 6:9-10, Heb 10:31, 13:4). 

Reply to roypotterqa  

I don’t claim to be a traditional Christian.

Best to admit you’re not a Christian (Mt 7:20).  :smokie: Your girly moment :Whipsnap: proved that you’re not prepared for what is to come (1 Thess 5:2).  

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Toney

[Toney, unrepentant serial adulterer [Rom. 7:2, 3], previous vid re:  those comfortable with their sin [Re 2:18-24] :noway:)

You are guaranteed to go into the tribulation, Thyatira (Re 2:1`8-24). :dizzy: Give your concubine (Prov. 2:16–19) a smooch tonight (Heb 13:4).  These are the best days you’ll ever know (Heb 11:25).  Live it up (Re 22:11).  

Reply to Hamrick

Don’t know what you mean by religious.  Spend more time caring for orphans and widows :cry: and less time looking for your dirty hoe in Vegas (Jas 1:27). :hammer:

    B.      The wicked (6:3–5)

      1.      They deny the faith (6:3–4a).

      2.      They are conceited and argumentative (6:4b).

      3.      They cause confusion, envy, and friction (6:4c).

      4.      They use spiritual things for financial gain (6:5).

    C.      The wise (6:6–8): They realize that godliness with contentment is great gain. Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (1 Ti 6:1–8). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

theophilus View Post

It is clear that the marriages we enter into on earth will no longer exist in Heaven?...

That’s correct. The husband and wife will no longer be married; but, they will be able to love one another even more than they were able to in this life. :straight:

Reply to Toney

I know I’m an old man preaching.

You’re a dirty old man who has no business preaching :dizzy: —an unrepentant, serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3).

You have not been convinced that you are a sinner in need of a savior.

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”

These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit (Jud 14–20).

"Enoch prophesied regarding the false teachers of the last days, and that is a remarkable thing! God apparently did not want the Book of Enoch in the canon of Scripture or it would be there—you may be sure of that. Godly men recognized that it was an apocryphal book, but here is one prophecy that God wanted put into His Holy Word. It is a prophecy concerning the coming of Christ with His saints.

We know from the record in Genesis that Enoch was translated, that is, he was removed from the earth without dying. And sometime in the future, the church, meaning true believers, is to be removed from the earth without dying. Of course, through the centuries since the time of Christ, believers have been dying so that at the present time most of the church has already passed through the doorway of death. And at the time of the Rapture they are to be caught up together with the living believers to meet the Lord in the air. This teaching is not in the Old Testament at all, yet Enoch is a type or a representative of the believers who will take part in the Rapture. Enoch was removed from the earthly scene before the judgment of the Flood came upon the earth. And the believers who compose the true church will be removed from this earth, will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, before the judgment of the Great Tribulation breaks upon the earth.

Now, after the Great Tribulation, the Lord Jesus will return to the earth. However, at the time of the Rapture He does not come to the earth, but the believers are caught up to meet Him in the air. When we say that the Rapture is the second coming of Christ, we are not quite accurate if we mean that Christ is coming to earth at that time. No, the Rapture is the removal of the church. Then the visible church which is left on the earth, composed of folk who are not true believers, will totally depart from the faith and will enter the Great Tribulation period. And at the end of the Tribulation, the Lord Jesus will actually come to the earth “to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed,” as Jude has prophesied. This is a remarkable passage of Scripture.

Now notice the penetrating truth brought out in Dr. Wuest’s translation of Jude 14–15:


  And there prophesied also with respect to these, the seventh from Adam, Enoch, saying, Behold, there comes the Lord with His holy myriads, to execute judgment against all and to convict all those who are destitute of a reverential awe towards God, concerning all their works of impiety which they impiously performed and concerning all the harsh things which impious sinners spoke against Him.


It is quite interesting that “holy myriads,” which has to do with the numbers of the saints, can be supernatural or natural creatures, which probably means that the church will come back with Christ when He returns to the earth. If the church does come back with Him to reign on the earth, obviously it had to leave the earth sometime before. You simply have to believe in the Rapture if you believe that Christ is coming back to earth with His saints.

“To execute judgment upon all.” When Christ returns to the earth, He is going to execute judgment. Jesus Himself said this in His Olivet Discourse. It is mentioned again and again in the Word of God, and we have seen it in the Old Testament.

“To convince all that are ungodly among them” or, as Dr. Wuest has translated it, “to convict all those who are destitute of a reverential awe towards God.” They are ungodly in the sense that they leave God out. And that is something that is quite popular today.

“Of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed.” Dr. Wuest translates it: “… concerning all their works of impiety which they impiously performed.” Their works are actually anti–God.

“And of all their hard speeches [harsh things] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Now this prophecy of Enoch, and it is a great prophecy, deals with the judgment upon the organized church which will be in total apostasy after the Rapture. You see, the Rapture will rupture the church—the true believers will leave the earth, and the make–believers will remain and will be here when Christ comes to judge men in that day.” McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (2 and 3 John/Jude) (electronic ed., Vol. 57, pp. 108–110). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Reply to Jason Wilmes

Since so many people think that lust is a bad thing…

:yawn: Who cares what people think?  Eph 4:14.  What does God think? :freak: James 1:14, 15

[Deut 14:26]

“Tithes (Deut. 14:22–29; 26:12–15): All Israelites are to tithe their crops each year, bringing the revenue to the Tabernacle. They also are expected to help support the Levites, foreigners, widows, and orphans living in their town or city.”  Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Dt 14:22–29). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

So is lust always a bad thing?

Lust for your wife all day long (Pr 5:19).  :dizzy:  Don’t lust for women who don’t belong to you (1 Tim. 6:9).

Sidebar:  Do you often run around Fakebook promoting lust? :hobo: 2 Tim. 3:6 

Reply to Toney

Us…going into a rapture this fall.

You dishonor marriage (Heb 13:4), serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3).  You’re not going anywhere. :dizzy:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Rhema Fahrenheit  

[Husbands:  Man up and love your wives James & Lea D]   

He is not to divorce her (John 4:17, 18, 1 Cor. 7:11); but, if he does, she can pray for him (Prov. 5:15–17, 20, 31:11, 12). :straight:

Reply to Toney

[Toney, unrepentant serial adulterer (Rom. 7:2, 3)] You’re in to sexual sin and perversion.

You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).  :noway:

No more moon lit kisses for you and your Mrs. (Mt 24:29).

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to HamrickCE

"Just because someone claims to be a Christian…doesn’t necessarily make them a Christian..."

Know thyself (Eph 4:14).  :thumb: You claim to be a Christian and don’t acknowledge the fact that you are married (Rom. 7:2, 3). :dizzy:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

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Who is more compassionate and what is best for society?...Who is more compassionate and what is best for society?

Try over the next several days to look for these ploys by the left and the right…

Leftists:  steal, kill and destroy in all they do (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).

“Relationships are the most important thing in all the universe.” ~ Bob Enyart Gen. 1:1–3, 26

ignatius replied

There is no way to talk to a leftist like an adult. Whenever you disagree with them they label you…

That’s correct (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).  That’s why a Great Tribulation is necessary.  

Kastewart replied

[“Relationships are the most important thing in all the universe.” ~ Bob Enyart] Yes, because only true Christian saints like you…

Every believer is called a saint.

…[C]an recognize the importance of relationships…

You should. God is triune (Is. 6:3). You will learn about what he thinks about those made in his image (Gen. 9:6, Ps 94:23). 

Ralphena Speaks Francis Santarose 

Reply to Scott Robison

This is so embarrassing, but I am going crazy. Ok, I am going to confess my biggest sin. Lust, is my biggest sin. I used to be addicted to porn. I have been married for almost 18 years. I came to Christ about 6 years ago. I am 40 years old. My wife is an unbeliever.

According to Paul in:

1 Corinthians 7:12-16

Now, I will speak to the rest of you, though I do not have a direct command from the Lord. If a fellow believer has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to continue living with him, he must not leave her. 13 And if a believing woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him. 14 For the believing wife brings holiness to her marriage, and the believing husband brings holiness to his marriage. Otherwise, your children would not be holy, but now they are holy. 15 (But if the husband or wife who isn’t a believer insists on leaving, let them go. In such cases the believing husband or wife is no longer bound to the other, for God has called you to live in peace.) 16 Don’t you wives realize that your husbands might be saved because of you? And don’t you husbands realize that your wives might be saved because of you?

So, I am not going to seek to divorce her. Because I love her and there is a chance she can come to Christ.

But Paul says one of the reasons we get married is because of burning lust.

1 Corinthians 7:1-11

Now regarding the questions you asked in your letter. Yes, it is good to abstain from sexual relations. 2 But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband.

3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.

5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 But I wish everyone were single, just as I am. Yet each person has a special gift from God, of one kind or another.

8 So I say to those who aren’t married and to widows—it’s better to stay unmarried, just as I am. 9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust.

10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord.[b] A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife.

But, what happens when your unbelieving wife deprives you?  What do I do?

Jesus said in:

Matthew 5:27-28

27 “You have heard the commandment that says, ‘You must not commit adultery.’  28 But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

So, I can’t lust for anyone else. But can I lust for my wife, who is depriving me?

To give you a little information about my wife she has insecurity issues about her body and feeling sexy….

Maybe because you had viewed porn and have lost your God-given bonding mechanism? :idunno:

And we are working on that.

You are working on restoring that which you destroyed?  Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Too bad you didn’t believe Jesus.

"Too bad." :chz4brnz:~ Seth Brundle, The Fly

…[T]hat is a whole other topic that I am not going to get into right now.

You’ll get into:  give me sex—but not that. :juggle:

So, my question is, would it be wrong to do the M word (not saying the word).

Sex outside of marriage is sin.

Sorry for going so personal but it’s driving me crazy.

Her body is not her own (1 Co 7:4). 

“You reap what you sow, more than you sow, and later than you sow.” ~ Charles Stanley

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Jason P. Duronslet

I deal with the same issues with my wife except she believes.

She’s a believer; but doesn’t obey Jesus (1 Co 7:4).  Lot of that going around (Mt 7:21). :dizzy:

“You can’t have a come in Savior and a stay out Lord.” ~ Adrian Rogers   

Reply to El Shaddai

You’re honey not salt.  Jesus stated a fact—her concubus was not her husband (Rom. 7:2, 3).  Make it up as you go along (Heb 13:4).

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney  

Reply WakingBrideOfTheKing

I love it.

You love your ears ticked.  Jesus didn’t go out of his way to speak with this woman only to rubber stamp the wicked lives that the Jews had been living.  They turned marriage into a sham.  He reaffirmed marriage (Mt 19:5-6).  After he spoke, your excuses ran out.  She was more valuable to him than the life she’d been living.  She didn’t need to hop from bed to bed to be seen as valuable in his eyes.  He, unlike all her concubuses loved her.  She could stop whoring around.

Be prepared for judgment if you follow those men in their footsteps (Heb 13:4).       

Reply to WakingBrideOfTheKing

Love builds up, it doesn't tear down.

Love tells the truth (Am 5:15, Ac 20;20 ).   

My bible tells me that it is Satan (the adversary) who is the accuser of the brethren.

Why would Satan accuse a false teacher?  Mk 3:24, 2 Pe 2:1.  He loves Biltz’ perversion of marriage (Gen. 2:18–24, Mt 19:5-6).

I am not convinced one iota that you and I are of the same spirit.

Neither am I (Ro 8:14). :juggle:

…You accuse me of loving to have my ears tickled just because I voice my appreciation on an in-depth exegesis of a certain biblical text -- the one of which whom you happen to refer "a whore".

Are you a serial adulteress?  Rom. 7:2, 3  Good news—Jesus came to die for you.  As Farag says:  A.  Admit you’re a sinner.  B.  Believe on the Lord Jesus C.  Confess him as Lord.   

I am amazed. I have never heard anybody in the body of Jesus ever refer to that dear woman at the well whom Jesus revealed himself plainly to as the awaited and beloved Messiah, "a whore" before.

She was a whore and then stopped whoring around (1 Co 6:11).  Repentance is requited to be saved (Acts 2:37, 38).

Don't you know that we all have to give an account for every idle word spoken out of our mouths?

You will give an account for not supporting/honoring marriage (Heb 13:4). 

And then you tell me that I should be prepared for judgment? Seriously? And judgment from whom, may I ask? From Jesus? Or from you?

I don’t know you.  Do you whore around and remain unrepentant for it?

He who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him (Jn 3:36).

What kind of judgment is it exactly, might I ask, you boldly proclaim should I be prepared for?

If you are an unrepentant whoremonger/whore, then you can expect to go to hell (1 Co 6:9-10). This is what we call in the Greek—a no brainer (Rom. 2:8, 9, Rev. 21:8). :burnlib:

Please, by all means, fill me in on all the details. 

I don’t know what you’ve done to others (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10); but, God does. 

“The psalmist reviews their perversions (94:4–10, 20–21, 23)…. Their godless attitudes (94:7–10, 23): They foolishly think God won’t see, hear, or punish their evil. But he does, and he will.” Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Ps 94:7–10). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

Your sins are on Jesus or they’re on you. 

In the name of Jesus and for my sake, don't leave anything out.

Were you faithful during his absence?  Lk 12:47.  Did anyone care for you? Pr 25:22

Reply to K T 1mintillmidnight

So who then, was “the man that you are living with now” who Jesus stated was not her husband?

He stated a fact.  Whomever her husband was, he wasn’t in her bed.  She had multiple concubuses but only one husband—in other words subsequent illegal marriages (Rom. 7:2, 3).  Do you remember?  John the Baptist got his head chopped off (Matt. 14:3–12) for calling out an illegal marriage (Mark 6:17, 18).    

Jesus knew what marriage was.  He instituted it (Gen. 2:18–24).    :Plain:

…[Y]ou speak as one who is unregenerate.

:yawn: Eph 4:14

You thought grace was your license to sin?  Are you out sinning so grace can abound? :Shimei: Jud 4   

Reply to  Lisa Vanvalkenburgh

…[W]hy does the main church prefer such a legal and judgmental interpretation?  

The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).  Judge Rightly Is Not Some Guy's Name.  Paul said “such were some of you” (1 Co 6:11a).  If there was never a time when “you were washed” (1 Co 6:11b), then you remain under wrath (Jn 3:36).  :dizzy: Greasy gracers exclude repentance from their gospel (Acts 2:37, 38).  :hammer: These are those who will hear:  “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.”  Mt 7:23

“You can’t have a come in Savior and a stay out Lord.” ~ Adrian Rogers   

Reply to Jason P. Duronslet

…Speak God's word and then drop venom inside.

:yawn: “Truth is hate to those who hate the truth.” ~ Bob Enyart Ps 119:160

Jesus rebuke you, Satan.

:yawn: You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14). :noway:

Ro 14:4, Ps 105:15  

Reply to Jason P. Duronslet 

I'm pretty sure Bob Enyart didn't write palms.

Eph 4:14

He’s not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.  It’s the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile (Ro 1:16). :juggle:

You speak with the tongue of confusion.

:yawn: Something confusing about:  love you wife (Eph. 5:25–33), life with her for life (Matt. 19:3–9) and don’t have sex outside of marriage? Mal. 2:14, 15

This is of the devil.

“Truth is hate to those who hate the truth.” ~ Bob Enyart 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney Rom. 7:2, 3] I’ve never seen people so in love with themselves.

You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14). :noway:

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 2 Ti 3:1–5

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Toney

[Philosophes of men, serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)] “It’s time to abandon those things…”

Mt 7:5, Eph 4:14

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Ken Barber @kenbarber

[Pets of Gab] My ex-wife's pussy, all spread out for you on the deck where she'd been sunning herself...

No such thing as “ex” (Rom. 7:2, 3, Mt 12:36). :scripto:

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney    

Tell it to the women who dump their husbands at the first sign of trouble.

Evil comes in male and female (Heb 13:4).

Till death do us part my ass.

Something about Rom. 7:2, 3, Mt 19:5-6 you don’t get? :smokie: 

Something about the way real people are behaving in the real world that you don't get?

Real people really have a court date (Re 20:11).  Payday someday (Ga 6:7, Heb 13:4).  :burnlib:

[Evil comes in male and female] Except that it's 70% female.

:yawn: Bandwagon (Eph 4:14).  30% of the readers will disagree with you (Ge 3:12).

Seventy percent.

You are responsible for 100% of your behavior (Mt 19:11).  

And that re-unites me with the woman I loved how? 

Not saying it does :idunno: though reconciliation is encouraged (1 Cor. 7:10–17).  If she’s defiled; however, you are not called to bondage (1 Co 7:15)--in other words you don’t have to take on her VD. :granite:

“It pays me back all the money that was extracted from me via the child support mafia, how?

Par for the course (Mal 2:16, Pr 29:3). :juggle:

Deal with reality, please.

You believe your train wreck is reality? :dizzy: Heb 13:4

Marriage is:  one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3). :straight:

Fact:  70% of U.S. divorces are initiated by the woman.

They will give an account (Mal 2:16, Ro 14:12, Heb 10:31, 13:4).  Your wife included.  

Marriage is:  one man, several women…

Polygamy is forbidden (Ex 20:14).



Dude, you've gone way off into the weeds here.  My OP was a cute cat picture, with a joke.

Did she think you were cute? :hobo: Eph. 5:25–33, 1 Pe 4:4 

And people wonder why I'm an atheist now.

I don’t wonder.  :idunno: Sounds about right (Re 22:11).

I used to be a devout Christian.

Heb 10:26-27

People such as this dude are the reason why I am no longer.

No skin off my back (Lk 19:27). 

…I will have nothing to do with any group of people who believe that some sort of Authority (God…

We’ll have nothing to do with the group of people in hell either (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).  Your point?  

Reply to Diane Hos @Sunnysky

[Ken Barber @kenbarber quote] Don't blame people for your leaving God…

Maybe one day he’ll stop blaming his wife for all of his problems (Ge 3:12).

…[O]nly the rotten fruit fall off the tree of life.

How’s that polygamy :peach::peach::peach: working out for him? Mt 5:28, Heb 13:4

…Go back before u end up in hell.

Could be God’s finished with him (Heb 10:26-27).  :idunno: An apostate knew the truth and then stabbed Jesus in the back.   


Heretics, apostates and false disciples  

If he really knew Christ, he could never leave.

I agree.  False convert (1 Jn 2:19). :hobo:


Eternal Security: a Scriptural Defense Adrian Rogers

Lord have mercy on his soul and ours.

Yep.  :thumb: We’ve got to be ready to go (1 Pe 4:18, Re 3:2). :rapture: 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)] We as God-fearing people…

If that were true (Eph 4:14), then you would not live habitually in sin (1 Jn 3:9).

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)] “Civil conflict—I believe it’s due here in America…”

When America burns, look in the mirror for an answer first (Mt 7:5, Ps 33:12, Eph 4:14).

"If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.” ~ Billy Graham

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).    

Reply to HamrickCE

“God showed me 17 years ago that I would be married.”

You are married (Rom. 7:2, 3). :dunce:  

Reply to Bryan Easdon

[Hamrick rebukes Scarbrough] You sure do spend a lot of time an energy judging others…

Who will get the biggest log in eye award at the Great White Throne?  :think: I nominate Jerry Toney for that one. :scripto:

Who will get the slowest learner award at the Great White Throne?  :think:  I nominate HamrickCE for that one. :scripto:

You may cast your vote from now until Friday. Rom. 7:2, 3 

Reply to Toney

The wife read to me this morning…

Do you mean someone else’s wife?  You stated that she has a husband.  You did not say that he died.  You stated that you have a wife.  You did not say that she died.  If your spouses are alive, then your shack up is called many things; but, it is not called marriage (Jn 4:18, Rom. 7:2, 3).  Your statement of “two bad marriages” :sozo2: :sozo2: is no excuse.  :dizzy: God will accept your repentance.  :straight: He will not accept your excuses. :burnlib:

When your wife dies, you are free to remarry.  When her husband dies, she is free to remarry.   You are called concubus.  She is called concubine.  Heb 13:4   

“I prefer clarity to agreement.” ~ Dennis Prager

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)]  I wanted to give you a watchman…

You’re no watchman (2 Pe 2:1). :granite:

“We need to pray for the peace of Jerusalem…”

He will not hear your prayer (Pr 15:29). :blabla:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23). 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)]  

Scarbrough, a faithful man :straight:(Eph. 5:25–33), :idea: exposes you for the devil you are (Eph 5:11) :sherlock: on his channel today (Mt 7:20).

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).  

Reply to Parable of the Vineyard

Your guest speaks about his: ex-wife, his wife :peach: :peach: and his joy.

I’ll believe him or I’ll believe the prophet Isaiah (Is 48:22). :think:  I’m goin’ with Isaiah (Eph 4:14). :idea:   

There is no such thing as an ex-wife (Rom. 7:2, 3).  Just like there is no such things as mostly dead (2 Co 5:8).  Is there some reason that you put a serial adulterer on your channel? :squint: Heb 13:4

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney    

We both have committed adultery and got divorced in our ignorance.

That doesn’t make you unmarried (Rom. 7:2, 3).  You thought that you were free to defile another woman? :peach: :peach: Deut. 24:4

Thank God for Jesus Christ who has removed our blinders and healed our evil hearts.

Your solution is to keep on sinning so that grace abounds? :idunno: Ro 6:1-2.  Good luck with that (Heb 13:4). Ps. 19:13, 73:8–12, Lk 18:11, 12  

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Reply to Potter

You can pretend to be a libertarian; but, your fruits will show who you are.

“A libertarian is an immoral conservative.” ~ Bob Enyart Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Mt 7:20

[Big Love] I wasn’t used to market the program.

Do you mean big lust?  Polygamy :peach: :peach: is forbidden (Ex 20:14).



I have a lot of respect for those people.

You have a lot of respect for polygamists? :dizzy: Heb 13:4  

I fled from cults--a lot of born again Christians places.

What other kind of Christian is there? Jn 3:7 

You’re labeled a blasphemer and an apostate.  That’s how cults work.

You’re labeled a blasphemer if you’re a blasphemer and an apostate if you’re an apostate.


Heretics, apostates and false disciples  

I’m not a polygamist anymore.

Is your wife still alive? Rom. 7:2, 3

Recommend reading:

The Divorce Myth by J. Carl Laney    

You think that’s so bad—what do you think General Petreus was?  He had a mistress and he was married—and his mistress was married.

That makes General Betrayus an adulterer (Ex 20:14).  This isn’t rocket science.  :dizzy:

You don’t need to attack me for this.  I don’t really care if you do.

We know (Re 22:11).

Polygamy isn’t sick.

Good luck with that :juggle: (Lk 19:27).

It was a form of matrimony that was allowed by God.

False (Gen. 2:24). :hammer: 

Reply to Caleb B

Serpent, John 8:7 says:  “Let him that is without sin cast the first stone.”

Necessary for adulterers (Lev. 20:10–12).  That’s correct. 


Capital Crime:  Adultery, Nicer than God , The Bible's Criminal Code  by Bob Enyart

Keep reading in your bible and you will get to the New Testament...

You thought God did away with the law for the lawless? :dizzy: 1 Ti 1:9

It’s the best part!

For the Christian (1 Jn 3:14).

Jesus died to pay the price for our sins and we are made new again.

If he has made you new (Mt 7:20). :sherlock: God does not forgive men before they repent (Ezek. 18:31).   


Stop Me Before I Forgive Again!  By Bob Enyart 

Reply to Toney

[Serial adulterer Toney (Rom. 7:2, 3)] People don’t want to hear the truth.  They evade the truth.

You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14). :noway:

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Reply to Lionel Nation

[Social pressure against acquaintances]

Do you remain friends with adulterers? Ps 26:4-5, 50:18b, Is 5:20, Mt 18:7, Heb 13:4

If yes, are you prepared to warn young people about society’s apathy toward adultery and recommend that they not marry in our culture because of it? Jer. 16:2

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