Supreme Court: Marriage

[American Family Association Tim Wildmon] "Tomorrow, April 28, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments for and against redefining marriage in America. The very institution of God's design for marriage as only between one man and one woman is on trial. As hard as it is to believe, nine people will decide if our nation will honor God and obey Him, or turn its back on the most fundamental building block of society and on God himself. This will be the most important decision in the history of America. I'm urging you to do just one thing...Pray. Here is a link to four prayers to help your prayer time. Please, for the sake of our nation, Pray." Gen. 2:18–24, Heb 13:4

"What is honored in a country is cultivated there." ~ Plato, Republic

Related:

Exception Clause for Divorce

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "With all due respect to Tim Wildmon, is he not aware that we as a nation quit respecting God decades ago?"

We have. Joel Rosenberg recently said he believes that our country is already under judgment--past the point of no return.

Interesting times.

[Will the War of Gog and Magog happen before or after the Rapture? By Joel Rosenberg] "The truth is we simply do not know the answer for certain, because Ezekiel does not say. Many of the theologians I have cited in this book believe the war will occur after the Rapture. In the novel Left Behind, Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins describe the War of Gog and Magog as having already happened before the Rapture takes place. In The Ezekiel Option, I also chose to portray the war occurring before the Rapture.

In Matthew 24:14, Jesus says, “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come” (NASB). We also know from Ezekiel that God will use the War of Gog and Magog to display his glory to all nations and to pour out his Holy Spirit, particularly on the nation of Israel. As a result of the entire world seeing God defend Israel from the onslaught of the Russian-Iranian coalition, a dramatic spiritual awakening will occur around the globe. It would certainly be consistent with God’s heart for humanity that he would cause this cataclysmic moment to occur before the Rapture in order to shake people out of their spiritual apathy and/or rebellion and give them at least one more chance to receive Christ as their Savior before the terrible events of the Tribulation occur.

But let me be clear: I believe that the Rapture could occur at any moment, and I would certainly not be surprised in any way if it occurred before the events of Ezekiel 38 and 39 come to pass.
Christian theologians speak of the “doctrine of imminence.” This means that according to the Bible there is no prophetic event that has to happen before Jesus snatches his church from the earth. That is, the Bible teaches us that we should be ready for Jesus to come for us at any moment. I fully believe that. But it should be noted with regard to this doctrine that while no major prophetic event has to happen before the Rapture, that doesn’t mean no such event will happen first. Perhaps the clearest evidence of this truth is the rebirth of Israel. This major prophetic event was foretold in Ezekiel 36–37, yet its fulfillment happened before the Rapture. Thus, it is certainly possible that other events—such as the events of Ezekiel 38–39—could happen before the Rapture as well." Prophecy Q & A

Ready to Go ~ Republica

"There are a lot of people out there that share Rosenberg's defeatist attitude.  I'm glad that I'm not one of them."

He is witnessing men coming to Christ in the Middle East (Lk 15:10).

[2 Timothy 4:7]

It takes more than posting homo photos to engage in the battle (1 Pe 2:12).

"So Rosenberg's defeatist attitude is global, and just not in places like Colorado?"

He speaks at many churches (via satellite in the States now).  His message is one of encouragement not discouragement (1 Thess 5:11, Ro 11:25).

"So you, like GFR7, just go to my thread for the pictures sd?"

There are mental images I wish I could un-see (Phil 4:8, Isa 25:8).  

See:

Mt 24:32-51 Matthew Henry

Mt 24:36–41 Bible Knowledge Commentary

Texas lawmakers consider unprecedented anti-gay marriage bill Heb 13:4

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Do you vote Republican?"

Hell no (Pr 8:36, 23:7) .

"Give me a break about Jeb Mush or Ruby Tuesday." ~ Michael Savage

See:


ProLifeProfiles.com

"The purpose of marriage is to protect the child."

 A childless marital couple has no purpose?

"Marriage: Purposes of: Man’s happiness (Gen. 2:18), Continuance of the race (Gen. 1:28), Godly offspring (Mal. 2:14, 15), Prevention of fornication (1 Cor. 7:2, 9), Complete satisfaction (Prov. 5:19; 1 Tim. 5:14). Denial of: As a prophetic sign (Jer. 16:2), For a specific purpose (Matt. 19:10–12), As a sign of apostasy (1 Tim. 4:1–3), To those in heaven (Matt. 22:30). Figurative of: God’s union with Israel (Is. 54:5), Christ’s union with His Church (Eph. 5:23–32)." Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (pp. 400–401). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:

chrysostom View Post
The purpose of marriage is to protect the child.

TrakeM View Post
Exactly, that's why we require all married couples to have children and why it's a crime to have children if you're not married! Oh wait...

You're pro-bastard? Do you live in the ghetto?


In The Ghetto ~ Eric Cartman

Co-habitators less likely to get married than ever new study Mt 15:19, 1 Co 6:9-11

Supreme Court Approves Sodomite Marriage

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "It is done. Sorry to shout but I just want to emphasize everything that is taking place must occur for the ultimate establishment of the one world government/economy/religion to be established, as foretold in God's Word. Disbelieve that if you want but as you see us heading more and more in that direction, I'll let you explain to us how the most amazing coincidence in the history of mankind is taking place."

Isa 55:6

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "You got what you voted for..."
Mt 11:24

Response to comment [from other]: "SCOTUS has ruled in favor of marriage equality. Excellent!"

If it feels good, do it. Matt. 15:19, Pr 16:18


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2 Thess. 2:7, 8 Here comes polygamy. Deut. 17:16–17, 1 Kin. 11:1–4

'Love Is Love,' Obama Says After High Court Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

Love is love lust is lust 1 Tim. 6:9

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Two of the judges were Obama appointees."

Isa 40:22-23

Response to comment [from a pinko commie]: [Rare sheep ‘sacrificed to Satan’ on Dartmoor Luke 4:6–8; 2 Thess. 2:3, 4] ...The man of sin,antichrist,booger man(what ever we want to call him) cannot come unless there first be "a great falling away" and then (only when there is a falling away) will he be permitted to come. Just like the other examples they obey,they stand,,,if they don't they fall victim to a cruel ruler. So as long as there are people in the world who are Christian the man of sin "cannot come",,,again when the world completely descends into this "great falling away",,,well then they will have the king and government over them they wanted,,,that old serpent satin.

2 Ti 1:7



Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Exactly.  Liberals in these conversations always avoid the word lust. They simply roll it into 'Love' which is a disservice to the actual meaning and the rest of us that are also restricted to using the English language."

If one is willing to commit adultery/fornication ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:13]), he is also willing to manipulate words (2 Cor. 4:2, 2 Pet. 3:16). The Left (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10) is better at language if one prefers to live in delusionland (Ps 10:1–11, Lk 12:17–19, Lk 13:23–30, 2 Thess. 2:1–12, 2 Pet. 3:5, 16, 17).

"I was talking about one side of the argument limiting the vocabulary they are using (often times purposefully by the intellectual elite of one group, so their less bright members have simple slogans to chant)."

Spoon-feeding the wicked (Jer 5:31, 2 Ti 4:3).  “One with God is a majority” ~ Martin Luther

"In this case liberals, the group I was addressing, like to boil arguments down to selfish humanism."

If it feels good do it. 2 Tim. 3:2-4, Phil 2:21

"...I certainly believe gay people can love each other."

Sodomites ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:13]) do not love one another. People do not love others when they sin against themselves and another (1 Co 6:18). Love wants what is best for his neighbor (Mt 22:39, Judg 21:25, Jn 10:10).

"...'[R]ights' cases that the current struggle for 'gay rights' liken themselves to."

Men have the right to obey (Ac 5:29). Obey God and live. Don't and you won't (Re 20:14).
"You can build on him (1 Cor. 10:4) or stumble on him (1 Pet. 2:8). He'll be a stepping stone (Ps 18:2) or stumbling stone (1 Cor 1:23, Luke 20:18)." ~ Adrian Rogers

"And sticking with the topic of how this affects our speaking English.  What do members here think about using another word now for holy marriage? Stick with the term "matrimony" perhaps? The pairing "holy matrimony" always comes to mind for me."

Our word is marriage (Gen. 2:18–24). Their word is rebellion (Heb 13:4). God does not leave covenant relationships (Mt 19:6, Rom. 7:2, 3). A marriage is worthy of his presence (John 2:1–11). A sham is not. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 13:13, 19:1–28). He did not parTy harTy with them.

Response to comment [from other]: "Protecting children was never the primary function or reason for marriage."

Marriage is honorable with or without children (Heb 13:4).  God wants godly offspring (Ge 1:28, Mal. 2:14, 15).  Marriage was given not just to the Christian but to the world (Gen. 2:18–24).

"If it were, child bearing would be a mandatory requirement for marriage."

Right. Man and wife make a family (Gen. 2:18–24). Children are a blessing (Ps 127:3) but not necessary.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Ancestry, descendants, and the natural family were always the foundation of marriage, and many infertile couples are bitterly angry that gays capitalized on their misfortune to redefine marriage."

A Sodomite can't redefine anything (Rom. 7:2, 3). Laws come from God (Ge 2:7, Ro 2:15) not man (Ge 11:4, Ro 1:18). This is God's universe (Ps 103:19). He rules and reigns (Heb 13:4).

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? [that is, to bring Christ down from above:] [Rom. 10:6].

"He talks about ascending up to heaven to bring it down, or going down to hell and bringing it up. My friend, the righteousness that Paul is talking about—he quotes from Deuteronomy 30:11–14—is available!" McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (Romans 9-16) (electronic ed., Vol. 43, p. 43). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:
Rusha View Post
You are responsible for your blatant disregard of those very children you claim to care about if you do not hold husbands and fathers to the same standard as you hold wives and mothers.

Both are held to the same standards (Gal. 3:28).
Nazaroo View Post
Agreed.  Equality means equal responsibility for men and women based on gender.  But equality doesn't mean individuals are equally responsible for crimes.  Blaming the victim is an example of trying to press equality too far.

Parents are responsible to raise their kids right (Pr 1:8, 22:6). In general when they raise them right, they get godly kids.

See:

Walking in the Way of a Father by Charles Stanley

Robots -- get married Matt. 19:5


What are the implications of the Supreme Court’s marriage decision? Four key things to consider.

First Sodomite Divorce Firm Opens In Philly

Related:

A transsexual marrying under false pretenses

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

Nathan Collier: Montana man inspired by same-sex marriage ruling requests right to wed two wives Ex 20:14

Millions Reclaim the USA for God on July 4th and All Month Gen. 2:18–24

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  "I read the prayer. Says "Americans are God's people..." Do you need to be a citizen?"

1 Jn 3:12, NIV

"If you are one of The Donald's nasty Mexicans, are you not one of "God's people"?"

God's people could care less about ethnicity or skin color. In fact, when we say that we are called microagressive. Christians believe we are one race--the human race (Ac 17:26). In fact, when we say that we are called microagressive.

Explain where the Donald got the facts wrong. You thought all illegal aliens were valedictorians?

"Why are Christians so frightened of homosexuals?"

Why are God-haters so frightened of Christians? Ac 20:20 Would you like to make Christianity illegal?


"I don't want to make Christianity illegal, just don't want its ignorance shoved down the peoples' throats."

That's what all the adulterers said (Ex 20:14) who started all of this (Pr 6:14).

"...The social sexual revolution of our time." ~ Hugh Hefner 1 Co 6:9-10

"Hugh Hefner gives a lot of money to women's organizations to feel good about himself." ~ Dennis Prager 1 Tim. 2:9

Chief Justice Roy Moore Says Supreme Court Justices Can be Impeached

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Sure. It was tried once, initiated by the House in 1805 before the Senate killed it. All you need is a serious violation of law or ethic. You can also raise an amendment to the Constitution, but both are arduous tasks and this one is a fool's errand..."
Or don't appoint lawless men in the first place. 2 Thess. 2:7, 8

"They aren't lawless until adjudicated as such, your inclinations notwithstanding."

Who cares what I say? What has God said? Gen. 2:18–24, Heb 13:4

Laws come from God (Ge 2:7) not government (Ge 11:4).

"...Laws come from God not government."

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).

Laws come from God (Ge 2:7) not government (Ge 11:4).

"Not if..."

God said it. That settles it (Prov. 29:2).

[You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14).] "I always do..."

You do (Eph 4:14).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [To TH] "Wise up. "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-" If the Government fining a small baker $130,000.00 for not baking a gay union cake, is not reducing that baker under absolute despotism, I don't know what is."

Jn 8:36, Eph 6:13

Democrats Introduce Bill to Ban ‘Husband’ and ‘Wife’ as ‘Anti-Gay’ Words Gen. 2:18–24, Heb 13:4

"You removed the scripture from my quote."

Response to comment [from other]: "The same government agency awarded a Christian $325,000 from his employer for discrimination on the basis of religion. Where was your outrage then?"

Why would that be outrageous? Christians are the only ones fit to lead (Titus 2:15).

Sodomite divorce Gen. 2:18–24

Related:

A transsexual marrying under false pretenses

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).


We Will Not Bow, Part 1 by John MacArthur

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Those who desire to de-sexualize marriage, wish to end the cultural foundations, deeply embedded in our civil society, history and culture, and enthrone the new, ‘partnership’ understanding, which assumes that any legal distinction between same sex and male-female unions is arbitrary and discriminatory. Put simply, the law declares that all those who hold to the conjugal understanding of marriage are little better than racists. They do this for one purpose, the economic reality of such strange structural arrangements."

It's not about homos. It's about destroying marriage (Heb 13:4).

"My point is most relevant today. Do you understand what I said?" 

I do. I disagree. Even if the whole culture agrees with them, Sodomites won't experience joy (Is 57:21). 

This isn't about their finances. This is about their idolatry (2 Cor. 6:15–18) and the lack of fulfillment that follows (Ga 6:8).

Texas Man Proposes to Another Man in ‘Church’ Despite United Methodist Ban on Same-Sex ‘Marriage’

Global Coalition Calls for Nine Days to Pray and Fast for the Sanctity of Life, Marriage, and for the Synod on the Family October 16 - 24, 2015 2 Chron 7:14

'I do, I do, I do:' Brazilian female trio get hitched

Marriage is for one man and one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "With none of the responsibilities, no doubt.  Like finding a suitable man and learning to love him till death."

Covenent schmovenent they say (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Heb 13:4).

See:

Disposable Culture

Response to comment [from a Buddhist]: [Abolishing marriage] "[H]ow [would] this contract would be enforced sans legal means?"

Marriage has been instituted by God (Gen. 2:18–24).

Father, Adopted Son Seek Right To Marry Each Other Gen. 2:18–24

Man 'marries sex doll' Gen. 2:18–24

Related:

Dozens of people mistake robot for real woman - and they think she's 'sexy'


Sodomite marriage "legal", but not on some tribal lands Gen. 2:18–24

Mississippi same-sex divorce granted Gen. 2:18–24

The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).

Rabbi ‘kidnapped, tortured’ husbands into granting wives divorce Gen. 2:18–24, Mt 19:8 ESV, Rom. 7:2, 3
Couple seeking to undo their divorce get turned down Matt. 19:6, 1 Cor. 7:10–17

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "A question for the anti-gay marriagers here: if a different term was used for homosexual unions (like mirage, I guess) and all the same rights and benefits that heterosexual married couples receive were extended to these eloped homosexuals, would that be cool with you?"

Who cares about what's cool with me? What has God said? Gen. 2:18–24, Eph. 5:23–32, Ac 5:29

“Behavior is the mirror in which everyone shows their true image.” ~ Goethe

University moves to fire professor for defense of man-woman marriage  

Erotic Sex? It's a Gift from God Says the Pope Prov. 5:15–20

2016 March for Marriage Set for June 25 in Washington, DC
 

Judge blocks Mississippi anti-LGBT 'religious freedom' law  

Father Dies Minutes After Dancing with Daughter at Her Wedding Ruth 1:11–18 Woman's Best Friend Jer 16:2

Obama Removes Wedding Ring

Mexico- Thousands protest against same-sex marriage proposal

'DivorceHotel': Check In Married, Check Out Divorced -- All In Weekend Jer. 16:2

Black Flag "Roach Motel" Commercial Heb 13:4
paxvobiscum View Post
The first reason for marriage is sociological and that was to put the sex genie in a bottle.

You must not have read Song of Solomon.

The song of songs, which is Solomon’s [Song 1:1].

“I suppose one could liken this book to a piece of folk music, or more likely to an opera. These canticles are put together to give us a glorious, wonderful story. This is one of the methods God used in speaking to His people. It rebukes asceticism, but it also condemns lust and unfaithfulness to the marriage vow. This is no soap opera. It is not a cheap play in which the hero is a neurotic, the heroine is erotic, and the plot is tommyrotic. Rather, it is a beautiful song of marital love.” McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: Poetry (Ecclesiastes/Song of Solomon) (electronic ed., Vol. 21, p. 111). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

The government should stay out of what is "marriage".

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Men make it up as they go along (Heb 13:4).

Serpent D...

Do you know how to use the ‘reply’ button?

A law is defined as an ordinance of reason for the common good…

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). Make it up as you go along (Re 22:11). Most people do (Mt 7:13-14).
Madonna Offers to Remarry Sean Penn for $150,000 Deut. 24:4

See:

Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper by John Piper
quip View Post
Else religion would feel entitled to define/enforce marriage by their exclusive interpretation...

God's interpretation (your word ) is the correct interpretation. Gen. 2:18–24
For me...absolutely.

It wouldn't be for you if it weren't for everybody (Eph 4:14).
paxvobiscum View Post
The government should stay out of what is "marriage"...

Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29, Ps 33:12, Heb 13:4).
Daniel1769 View Post
The government should not be involved in marriage at all.

The law does not regulate morality. The law regulates immorality (Lev. 20:10–12).

See:

The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart
paxvobiscum View Post
I think the issue was defining what is a marriage--if  society states...
God states (your word ) what marriage is (Gen. 2:18–24). Societies make it up as they go along (Ps 33:12, Jer 16:2, Heb 13:4).
Daniel1769 View Post
Our government is the biggest negative effect on society. They're going to somehow help society?

They don't. That's the point (Is 5:20, Jer 16:2, Heb 13:4).

Why This $130 Wedding Ring Set Went Viral Heb 13:4
The Horn View Post
Humans created marriage, not God.

God created marriage (Gen. 2:18–24). Honor it (Heb 13:4) or don't (Re 22:11).


No whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph 5:5).

Married Italians will no longer have to pledge to be faithful Pr 20:6
Crucible View Post
Nearly half of all marriages end in divorce, and the remarriage...

See:

Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper by John Piper
Crucible View Post
...rate devalues whatever 'family' there is after initial divorce.  It's a sad state affairs, which does more damage then homosexual marriage could ever do.  If you 'divorce' someone and get involved with another person, then it's adultery...

That's correct (Rom. 7:2, 3).

See:

Cuckoo birds

aCultureWarrior View Post
...[D]o you fix an invaluable institution that is in need of repair by redefining it?

There is no redefining it. Marriage is instituted by God not man (Gen. 2:18–24, Ac 5:29).

Woman in  love with robot and wants to marry

 We don't hurt anybody' 

It's National Marriage Week--Campaign to Promote Marriage and Its Success 

A 70-year-old love story celebrated with a 166-year-old wedding dress Ps. 45:13–15

Couple with Down Syndrome to Celebrate 22nd Anniversary: 'I've Never Seen Love Like It' Mt 18:3

Ever Wondered Why There’s an 'R' in 'Mrs'? 


Shuffles View Post
As evidenced in this thread, our decadent culture and law have gutted the meaning of marriage. Millennials aren't getting married because they have been convinced that it is meaningless.



Divorced couple, new spouses win co-parenting at daughter's soccer game Is 5:20, Jer 6:15, Heb 13:4

See:

The Conquering Christ by Adrian Rogers

Couple Married for 69 Years Dies 40 Minutes Apart, Holding Hands Gen. 2:18–24

Kirk, Anne Douglas' Deut. 24:4



Supreme Court: Marriage (TOL) (CARM)