Question about the judgment

BoughtWithAPrice View Post

When we stand before the Lord on the Day of Judgment to give an account of our lives will it start from salvation onwards or from birth?

We receive rewards at the Bema seat (Romans 14:10–12).  They are judged at the Great White Throne for their works.  No one will stand (Re 20:11).


Judgment Seat of Christ  

Bob Carabbio View Post

...[O]ur works as Christians will be evaluated, and rewards will be distributed.

Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Co 3:12-15).

We probably get something like an olive leaf crown and give it to him. He probably gets a big gold crown melted from our crowns.  You don't really want to walk around heaven with a crown do you? :squint:

The twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:

“You are worthy, O Lord,
To receive glory and honor and power;
For You created all things,
And by Your will they exist and were created.” Re 4:10-11.

Men go to hell for refusing to repent (Acts 2:37, 38). No one goes to hell because he was elected to go to hell (double pre-destination).

CrowCross View Post

[Men go to hell for refusing to repent (Acts 2:37, 38).] That would depend on what the meaning of repentance is.

Bill Clinton will try that defense at the Great White Throne judgment but it won’t fly.

All Christians sin.

If your first thought of the day is How can I sin today and still be called a Christian, you are not a Christian. Jesus died for you so that you would not have to live a life habitually in sin (Jn 8:34). He didn’t come to die for you because he had nothing better to do (Jn 8:36). 

Sometimes we sin on purpose and do it over and over again. I don't believe those Christians will go to hell.

You and I have different definitions of Christian (Ro 8:9). :juggle:

Many people call themselves Christian because it sounds nice—that’s what good people call themselves (Lk 6:46). :blabla:

Here’s what the apostle John says, “He who says, I know Him,’ and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4

Per my previous post I believe some of their rewards will be lost...but not salvation.

You’re a hopeful guy (Ps 50:21). :idunno: 

CrowCross View Post

I don't think a Christian wakes up thinking that.

I don’t either (Ro 8:14).

Christians should be careful with this verse. "and does not keep His commandments".....

They’re not careful at all.

Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven (Mt 5:19a).

…[W]hat does that actually mean? Do you always keep Christ commandments?

The Christian isn’t sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9). Did you think that that allowed you to go out and: murder, commit adultery and steal? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

A man accidentally drops $20.00 near an ATM. You happen to be the next in line and see the bill. You pick it up and he has just turned around to retrieve it. He says, “May I have that?” and you say, “I’m not under the law. Have a nice day.”

You’re 60 years old and ready to trade your wife in for two 30 year-olds (Geraci). You tell your wife, “I’m not under the law. Have a nice day.”

You were texting and driving and accidentally hit a kid riding his bike. You keep driving. I’m not under the law. Have a nice day.”

If your answer is I suspect it is....then…

Then you’re free to ParTy HarDy.   Have a nice day.

…[Y]ou have a big problem concerning your salvation.

:yawn: You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14). :noway:

...judging from your post, you seem to hinge on a touch of legalism…

Here’s the reprobate’s definition of a legalist: anyone obeying God (Jas 2:18). :dizzy:

…[A]nd a hint of works based salvation.

When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? :smokie: Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14



CrowCross View Post

I'm somewhat taken aback that you would even present that as some sort of argument against my position.

What is your position? Are you out sinning so grace can abound? :Shimei: Ro 6:1

I have in no way indicated that is my position...but somehow, people always throw it out there.

Maybe you’re not pulling the wool over the eyes of Christians. :idunno: 

CrowCross View Post

I'm pretty much a realist...where you don't seem to be.

We are led by the spirit (Ro 8:14). :straight:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Christians sin.

Christians do not live lives habitually in sin (1 Jn 3:9). :juggle:

…[T]hat is undeniable.

Christians aren't sinless. They sin less (1 Jn 1:8). One man was sinless. That was Jesus Christ. :dizzy:

Are they sinning so grace can abound?

Not they. You.

There seems to be a big chunk of wood in your eye.

:yawn: Proof please (Eph 4:14). :peach: 

CrowCross View Post

...[O]ne can backslide...

People stab Jesus in the back all the time. :idunno:

For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Heb 10:26–31).

CrowCross View Post

You have sinned willfully...

:yawn: You're projecting again (Eph 4:14). :noway:  Playing church time runs out 23 Sept 17 (Re 12:1-2). :burnlib: 

CrowCross View Post

Just how does Leo look like a crown?

You could make it  a: hat, a brooch or pterodactyl  (Eph 4:14).  :idunno:

CrowCross View Post

How do you know the Rev 12 prophecy isn't human cunning?

It’s Bush’s fault :sozo2: (Eph 4:14). :idunno: 


Question about the judgment