Question about the judgment
BoughtWithAPrice
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When we stand before the Lord on the Day of Judgment to give an account of
our lives will it start from salvation onwards or from birth?
We receive rewards at the Bema
seat (Romans
14:10–12). They are judged at the
Great White Throne for their works. No one will stand (Re 20:11).
See:
Bob Carabbio
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...[O]ur works as Christians will be evaluated, and rewards will be distributed.
Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold,
silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear;
for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire
will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has
built on it endures, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned, he
will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Co
3:12-15).
We probably get something like an olive leaf crown and
give it to him. He probably gets a big gold crown melted from our crowns.
You don't really want to walk around heaven
with a crown do you?
The twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits
on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns
before the throne, saying:
“You are worthy, O Lord,
To receive glory and honor and power;
For You created all things,
And by Your will they exist and were created.” Re
4:10-11.
Men go to hell for refusing to repent (Acts 2:37, 38). No one goes to hell because he was elected to go to hell (double pre-destination).
CrowCross
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[Men go to hell for refusing to repent (Acts 2:37, 38).]
That would depend on what the meaning of repentance is.
Bill Clinton
will try that defense at the Great White Throne judgment but it won’t
fly.
All Christians sin.
If your first thought of the day is How can I sin today and still be called a Christian, you are not a Christian. Jesus died for you so that you would not have to live a life habitually in sin (Jn 8:34). He didn’t come to die for you because he had nothing better to do (Jn 8:36).
Sometimes we sin on purpose and do it over and over again.
I don't believe those Christians will go to hell.
You and I have different
definitions of Christian (Ro 8:9).
Many people call themselves Christian because it
sounds nice—that’s what good people call themselves (Lk 6:46).
Here’s what the apostle John says, “He who says,
‘I know Him,’ and does not keep His
commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
1 Jn 2:4
Per my previous post I believe some of their rewards will
be lost...but not salvation.
You’re a hopeful guy (Ps 50:21).
CrowCross
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I don't think a Christian wakes up thinking that.
I don’t either (Ro 8:14).
Christians should be careful with this verse. "and
does not keep His commandments".....
They’re not careful at all.
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these
commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of
heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the
kingdom of heaven (Mt 5:19a).
…[W]hat does that actually mean? Do you always keep
Christ commandments?
The Christian isn’t
sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9). Did you think that that allowed you to go out
and: murder, commit adultery and steal? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10
A man accidentally drops $20.00 near an ATM. You
happen to be the next in line and see the bill. You pick it up and he has just
turned around to retrieve it. He says, “May I have that?” and you say, “I’m not
under the law. Have a nice day.”
You’re 60 years old and ready to trade your wife in
for two 30 year-olds (Geraci). You tell your wife, “I’m not under the law. Have
a nice day.”
You were texting and driving and accidentally hit a
kid riding his bike. You keep driving. I’m not under the law. Have a nice day.”
If your answer is no....as I suspect it is....then…
Then you’re free to
ParTy HarDy.
Have a nice day.
…[Y]ou have a big problem concerning your salvation.
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).
...judging from your post, you seem to hinge on a
touch of legalism…
Here’s the reprobate’s definition of a legalist: anyone
obeying God (Jas 2:18).
…[A]nd a hint of works based salvation.
When did God nail
do not murder,
do not commit adultery
to the cross?
Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14
See:
Lordship
CrowCross
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I'm somewhat taken aback that you would even present
that as some sort of argument against my position.
What is your position? Are you out sinning
so grace can abound?
Ro 6:1
I have in no way indicated that is my position...but
somehow, people always throw it out there.
Maybe you’re not pulling the wool
over the eyes of Christians.
CrowCross
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I'm pretty much a realist...where you don't seem to
be.
We are led by the spirit
(Ro 8:14).
Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save
you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).
Christians sin.
Christians do not live lives habitually in sin (1 Jn
3:9).
…[T]hat is undeniable.
Christians aren't sinless. They sin less (1 Jn 1:8). One
man was sinless. That was Jesus Christ.
Are they sinning so grace can abound?
Not
they. You.
There seems to be a big chunk of wood in your eye.
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
CrowCross
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...[O]ne can backslide...
People stab Jesus in the
back all the time.
For if we sin willfully after we have received the
knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a
certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour
the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the
testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you
suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot,
counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and
insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I
will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a
fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Heb 10:26–31).
CrowCross
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You have sinned willfully...
You're projecting again (Eph 4:14).
Playing church
time
runs out 23 Sept 17 (Re 12:1-2).
CrowCross
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Just
how does Leo look like a crown?
You could make it
a:
hat, a brooch or pterodactyl
CrowCross
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How do you know the Rev 12 prophecy isn't human
cunning?
It’s Bush’s fault
(Eph 4:14).