Socialized Medicine


Dr. Jill Vecchio--PPACA Pt 1 Coverage "Practicing physician gives a Non-partisan, thorough explanation of PPACA (aka Obamacare) and what it means to all Americans. 7 segments: 1) Who will be covered; 2) and 3) What are the costs 4) State Exchanges and Employers 5) Doctors and Patients; 6) Constitutional issues 7) Ideas for Real Healthcare Reform" Vid: Dr. Jill Vecchio--PPACA Pt 1 Coverage Ex 20:15, Am 8:5, Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Jn 8:36, Re 13:17


Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "Calling Jill Vecchio "non-partisan" is an outright lie."


Proof please. That is a quote from the text.


"I did not say you were the one doing the lying."


Great. Discuss the topic.


She's either lying or she's not. 


"The topic is thus: how can someone who lies about being nonpartisan..."


The topic is Obamacare.

"When government controls your healthcare, it controls you." ~ Jill Vecchio


"Your source is dishonest..."


Are you biased?


"Evidently not...You seem to be."


You have no biases but I do?


"Which one of us is willing to use a liar to back our posts?"


Do you have biases?

Boehner, McConnell refuse to appoint members to 'death panel' to Obamacare Pr 8:36


Obamacare: Taxpayers Must Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS


David Rivkin and Elizabeth Foley: An ObamaCare Board Answerable to No One. The 'death panel' is a new beast, with god-like powers. Congress should repeal it or test its constitutionality Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "When someone labels their presentation "non-partisan", you can bet that it's going to be rabidly partisan."


"The facts of life are conservative." ~ Margaret Thatcher


[Thatcher quote] "Only a fool thinks that reality is in complete conformity to her beliefs."


By that she meant that conservatives act on facts. Liberals act on feelings.

"If your intent is to do good, you are a conservative. If your intent is to feel good about doing good, you are a liberal." ~ Dennis Prager


[Thatcher/facts are conservative] "Conservatives always tell each other that..."


As a reminder, it is helpful to link to the member to whom you are addressing.

States seek to nullify Obama efforts


Howard Dean admits that Sarah Palin kinda-sorta might have been right about the Obamacare ‘death panel’ thing


Congress to get Obamacare exemption


Group demanding transplants for illegal aliens

Report: President personally negotiated Obamacare exemption for Congressional staffers

Obamacare Seeks Translators for Over 100 Languages

Reid: Obamacare just Step Toward Single-Payer

Obamacare Cost Caps Delayed Until 2015

Admin Has Missed Half of Legally Imposed Deadlines

Obamacare’s big question: What’s it going to cost me?

Despite temporary reprieve, business owners increasingly anxious as health-care law looms

Hold off Obamacare

10 ObamaCare fumbles


DeSantis and Salmon: Striking a blow against Washington’s ruling-class mentality An amendment forcing Congress to abide by the laws it imposes on others


80 House Members: Shutdown Better Than Obamacare


President delays deadline for finalizing Obamacare health plans--again

IRS issues final rules on Obamacare's 'individual mandate'


Report: Artists, photographers, writers to lose coverage under Obamacare


Republicans move to halt ObamaCare 'bailout' for angry unions


Obamacare Employee Accidentally Sends Out 2,400 Social Security Numbers

WH Refuses Union Pleas for Obamacare Waivers


Congress gets sneaky exemption from law

Punishes senator who tries to stop it

'There are death panels in there'

Obamacare will question your sex life


Tea Party: Conservatives Push New Spending Resolution to Defund ObamaCare


Obama: Americans Wrong About Obamacare


The GOP’s new plan to repeal, replace Obamacare


Obamacare Doctor Rationing Begins in California


Obamacare Will Increase Health Spending By $7,450 For Family of Four


Hannity to Ted Cruz: Obamacare Defunding a 'Tipping Point for the Country'


IRS Watchdog: $67 Million Missing from Obamacare Slush Fund

"The devil has substituted all kinds of sources of authority. For example, there is relativism. There was once a philosopher named Hegel. Hegel had this idea that everything is in flux. You have over here an idea; we'll call that a postulate or a thesis. Over here, he says is an antithesis. So, over here is the truth that says one thing. Over here is another thing--a postulate. Neither one of them may really be true but people believe this antithesis. And so there's a war between this thesis and this antithesis. These fight and these battle and after a while there comes something called a synthesis--the two ideas come together. For example, let's say that the thesis is capitalism. Let's say that the antithesis is communism. And let's say these get in a battle long enough and you come together with a synthesis which is what?--socialism.

What happens is this: once you have a thesis and an antithesis, then they come together in a synthesis--that's what Hegel said. Now, that synthesis becomes the new thesis. And then somebody else gets another antithesis. And the new thesis and antithesis go to war and then you come up with a new synthesis.

Do you see what is happening? Everything is moving. There is no solid, fixed standard (Adrian Rogers, paraphrased notes)."
Jn 8:36, Ps 119:160, Jn 14:6, Jn 10:10, Eccl 10:2


The Moses Principle by Adrian Rogers


Report: Obamacare will subsidize up to 111,500 abortions per year Pr 8:36

New delay in small-business enrollment Am 8:5

Obama finally admits: Yes, we did raise taxes Ex 20:15


10 states where Obamacare wipes out existing plans Jn 10:10

Feds approve taxpayer subsidies for abortion coverage

Obamacare Begins Ex 20:15, Jn 8:36


Why Is Obama Willing To Negotiate With Iran, But Not Republicans?

Obama On The GOP: 'I Shouldn't Have To Offer Anything'

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...I truly hate Obama."


He won't call terrorists terrorists but he will send his aides out to call conservatives terrorists.

Obama Senior Adviser Compares Republicans To Terrorists

Blaming GOP for shutdown Ex 20:15, Jn 8:36, Jn 10:10

Harry Reid's Office Leaks Boehner Office Emails


Perk: Obamacare phones offered to health insurance buyers Ex 20:15, Am 8:5

Digital records raises concerns


Obamacare national hotline: Warning language 1-800-F**KYO to reach Obamacare’s national hotline


Sebelius: Obamacare sign-up glitches a ‘great problem to have’

Huge taxpayer subsidy needed as Congress, staff buy 'gold' Obamacare plans

Exchange Sends List Of 2,400 Social Security Numbers To Broker

‘We’re Winning’: Ted Cruz on the Latest in Washington Amid the ‘Government Shutdown’


Jimmy Kimmel Asks Pedestrians If They Prefer Obamacare Or The Affordable Care Act

Quinn: "Originally, if you didn't have land, you didn't vote, and there was a good reason for it"


Dead can sign up in Kentucky Am 8:5

'Warning: No Explicit or Implicit Expectation of Privacy' Re 13:17


Obamacare Website Goes Offline for Repairs Again

Ben Carson: Obamacare Hurts Just as Healthcare 'Golden Age' Emerges Jn 10:10


Socialized medicine: Obamacare website cost more than Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Instagram

'How can we tax people for not buying a product from a website that doesn't work?'


Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[ Socialized medicine] "The website cost over 6 million dollars and doesn't even work!  If there was ever any proof that government is incompetent, that is it."


Destroying the best healthcare system in the world. Ex 20:15, Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Dick Morris: Oklahoma Suit May End Obamacare


Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Obamacare: More than a Glitch]

And you had hoped it would be as good as the DMV. Ex 20:2, Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Pro-Life ObamaCare Buyers Could Unknowingly Fund Abortion


Another ObamaCare ‘Glitch’: $30B blown on non-operational medical record system

The Obamacare Rollout Train Wreck

"Portal Potty--The porthole of death" ~ Laura Ingraham

House panel questions firms paid $$ for troubled ObamaCare website

Response to comment [from other]: "...The Teapublicans are the KKK in sheep's clothing."


Ad hominem


Tactics of the Left


Rep. Grayson blasted over anti-Tea Party email showing burning cross


Only Comrades Briefed: Senior HHS official to brief Democratic lawmakers Wednesday on Obamacare

Fewer Choices: About 1,000 Darden workers losing health insurance

Kaiser Permanente cancels insurance policies of 160,000

Florida Blue to cancel 300,000 policies over Obamacare

Carefirst to Drop 76,000 Customers

Millions of Americans Losing Health Plan


"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." ~ Barack Obama Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10


Proposed Law: 'If You Like Your Health Plan, You Can Keep It Act'

Dem slams hearing as 'monkey court' (Monkey court. Kangaroo court. )

Sebelius: 'I Don't Work For' People Who Want Me to Resign

Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity

Leno on Obamacare Website Fiasco: Let the NSA Run It, 'They Already Have Our Information'


No Bid Contract: Michelle O's Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare site Am 8:5


Response to comment [from other]: "What happens if the government runs out of money and sets up death panels?"


Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Hold Onto Your Butts


Applications 'won't be used for immigration enforcement purposes'

Axelrod Admits: 'You Can Keep Your Insurance' Promise Not True

Juan Williams: 'Not the Apocalypse' When People Lose Health Insurance

FLA woman's rate jumps from $54 a month to $591

'I just want to know why I can't keep what I have'

"Liberty is not a value of the Left." ~ Dennis Prager

WH Admits: Some will lose current health plans

NBC News: Obama knew millions would lose health plans Ex 20:16, Jn 8:44

Forgive. I need to interrupt this thread to be chatty (1 Pe 5:3).

WoundedEgo, did you know that the average persons' left hand does 56% of the typing?   Weird Facts.

1.5 million cancellations so far

Congress to exempt staff from Obamacare

Britain's NHS pulls plug on £11bn healthcare computer system

Paralyzed firefighter kicked off insurance

CNN: White House Pressuring Insurance Companies To Not Criticize ObamaCare

UK top court: OK for hospital to stop treatment

"The computer deal will get fixed up. Don't worry about that." ~ Bill Clinton


The website hasn't crashed--and Barack Obama is Steve Jobs.

Monty Python: The Parrot Sketch


'Whatever' Human Services Kathleen Sebelius got testy with legislators

Sebelius: “Don’t do this to me”

Blame others for cancelled health plans
Obama: 'bad apples insurers'

"This was always about destroying the American private healthcare system. There is not a tear shed in the White House--not even a crocodile tear over those who lost their health insurance." ~ Dennis Prager

Obama: 'Just shop around'--on a site that doesn't work

White House told insurance execs to keep quiet

'Data Mining' Budget 'To Ensure Programs Redistribute Tens of Billions'

Belgium considering unprecedented law to grant euthanasia for children

Slate Magazine: Canada has death panels and that's a good thing

Obama: It's hard but it's worth it. It is the right thing to do Isa 5:20

Propaganda: White House Asks for Photos of Happy Obamacare Enrollees

Sex workers jazzed about Obamacare

Dems now calling for doctors to take Medicare, Medicaid patients

Obama denies health care comments

Video recordings show him saying them -- at least 29 times

'Unions May Get Health Law Tax Relief'

Sebelius admits felons can become navigators

250,000 Colorado plans cancelled

Delaware Spends $4 Million to Enroll 4 People

Poll: 78% of Uninsured Not Interested in Obamacare

52 million Americans have lost or will lose health insurance

Blame game as insurers dump doctors

Obama Knows Best: Obama 2010. Americans Won't Lose Insurance, They'll Change To 'Better Deal'

It's all about you: Obama: 'I got burned already with a website...'

Tell Congress: 'Live by Your Laws!'

Persuasion cannot save him now, Campaigning will not work this time

The Truth about Navigators: Corruption at the heart of the president’s signature program

California: 1 Million Lose Insurance

Conflict of interest: WebMD pockets millions from feds to promote Obamacare

Promoting sexual sin

President thwarts Congress again



Insurers: 'Fix' could raise costs

Another woman with cancer dumped from insurance


Hillary Clinton 2007: 'If you have a plan you like, you keep it'

Home sellers discover hidden new Obamacare tax

Thousands of Doctors Dropped from Health Plans

House passes bill to keep your insurance

Obama vows to veto

Dem Rep: Amnesty key to making law work

Report: White House working with insurers to bypass Healthcare.gov



Biden: 'God willing' health site will be fixed Ex 20:15

Former FTC Commissioner: Obamacare Website Violates Federal Regulations

Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here.

Woman Hailed As Success Story Now Can't Afford

Plans in DC Cover Abortion, Not Hearing Aids

Perks Ease Way In Health Plans For Lawmakers

Analysis: 50 to 100 million insurance cancellations coming

Blaming Republicans


Obama: 'Invested in Failure' of Healthcare Law

Sebelius asked to explain $2B in Obamacare loans

Will this court case shatter Obamacare?

80 million could lose employer coverage under Obamacare

Boy with cancer loses coverage

Obamacare sign-up for small businesses delayed a year


Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[W]hy is it named after him?"


Obamacare Then, Affordable Care Act Now


Obamacare. Affordable Care Act. Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10



IRS Auditing Cancer Patient Who Lost Coverage, Spoke Out Am 8:5, Re 13:17

Also see:

IRS Admits Targeting Conservative Groups; Apologizes

High court ends Liberty University lawsuit over Obamacare Jn 8:36

Hookers At Nevada's 'Bunny Ranch' Call Obamacare 'A Blessing' Isa 5:20

Some Reid staffers exempt from Obamacare Am 8:5

Obama: 'We're Not Repealing Obamacare as Long as I'm President' Ex 20:15

'Don't Worry About the Price Tag' Song Wins Obamacare Video Contest  



Response to comment [from other]: "What is a "serpentdove"? I mean, scripturally?"


Mt 10:16

Obamacare Plans Exclude Top Hospitals

Cruz slams 'lawless implementation'

Major firms study Obamacare -- for how not to do it


Obamacare Open to Wi-Fi Attack

Report: Health law could force thousands of volunteer fire departments to close


More Hidden Taxes Funding Obamacare


Whole Foods CEO: ObamaCare 'Escape Clause' Going to Create Permanent American Part-Time Workforce


Vid: 'Pajama Boy' on Obamacare Jn 10:10, Eccl 10:2

You can act like a man!



WH lifts mandate for people whose insurance was canceled by Obamacare

Go uninsured or apply for 'catastrophic' coverage

'First crack in individual mandate'

14th change to healthcare law without Congressional approval


WH Extends Obamacare Deadline




New ObamaCare fees coming in 2014 Ex 20:15

Court: Obama Admin “Doesn’t Have the Right” to Impose HHS Mandate on Christian Colleges

Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

Hospital workers go unpaid

Data Goldmine: Walgreens, Walmart Offer Free Prescriptions to Obamacare Customers

Study: Medicare-eligible patients MORE likely to visit ER instead of less expensive options

'Direct contradiction' of WH claims

Obamacare: Doctor's Office Spends 2 Hours On Hold With Insurer For Surgery Authorization, Before Giving Up

Frustrated patients walk out of hospitals without treatment

HHS Uses Cold Weather to Push Obamacare

'Corrects' Another Rule in Law, Waives Comment Period and 30-Day Delay

Senator to sue over healthcare subsidy for Congress

Discovering Life Saving Drugs Is Very Hard and Very Expensive

Dem Sen asked state to cook books on Obamacare numbers

Hidden Practice: Hospitals Pay Patient Insurance Premiums

Report: Obamacare Bailout Planned for Insurance Companies

Exclusive -- 'I heard it doesn’t work': College Students React to Obamacare

A-List Stars Resume Propaganda Push to Save Obamacare

WH delays another Obamacare deadline



Bizarre Richard Simmons Obamacare Commercial Performance

Hundreds in Ohio Lose Doctors

Swedes buy insurance to skip long health queues

ObamaCare death debt? States can seize assets to recoup Medicaid costs

Hollywood Brainstorms 'Portraying ObamaCare in TV & Film'

Unaffordable Care Act: Sticker shock 2014 Obamacare taxes

Michelle O wants $10 donations 'to help protect Obamacare'

Report: Boston Tops List for Doctor Wait Times with 72 Days

Sick Kids Denied Specialty Treatment Due to Obamacare

Cost of Generic Drugs Soar

Obamacare enrollees hit snags at doctor's offices

California: Obamacare Turning Cancer Patients Away

AOL CEO: 'Obamacare Is Additional $7.1 Million Expense For Us'

CBO Director: 'Creates a Disincentive for People to Work'

WH Spin: Obamacare Will Save People 'Trapped in a Job'

Employer Mandate Delayed Again

Obama Rewrites Obamacare

Boehner: Exempts Corporations, Not Families

Directly Violates Text of Affordable Care Act

Krauthammer: 'This is stuff you do in banana republic'

Doctors 'Astonished' To Find Themselves Listed On Obamacare Exchange

'Avalanche' of Regulations Still to Come

Obama: 'I Can Do Whatever I Want'


The Crazy Nastyass Honey Badger  Warning Language



Future: British 6-year-old denied surgery because of government 'budget cuts'

Belgium Passes Bill Allowing Terminally Ill Children to Choose Euthanasia

Obamacare Recruiting Illegal Aliens in California

Obama: Signing Up for Obamacare 'Just Part of Growing Up'

Fourth Georgia hospital closes due to Obamacare payment cuts

Michelle Obama: 'Young People Are Knuckleheads;' Need Obamacare

Harry Reid: We need to extend the ObamaCare deadline because…some people don’t know how to use the internet

Study: Uninsured Patients Get Better Care Than Insured

IRS: Obamacare Tax Must be Paid

Public Rebellion Brewing

Sebelius Blames GOP Governors for Obamacare Failures

Convicted Terrorist Worked as Navigator in Illinois

DC plans include gender reassignment surgeries

Obamacare Enrollees 'Finding it Impossible to Cancel Their Plans'

Restaurants in Florida Charging Obamacare Surtax

Another Delay: New delay would avoid more cancellations Friday before Election Day


Feds to force Doctors to use 155,000 codes to record injuries, diagnoses, and procedures

Opt Out: Bill to Make Fine $0 for Violating Individual Mandate Passes by 90 Votes

Michelle O To Obamacare Counselors: 'You Are Doing God's Work' Ex 20:15

Surcharge Appearing on Restaurant Bills Across Country

Michelle Obama: 'We Nag You Because We Love You'

Rhode Island Instructs Moms to Use Fornication App to 'Nag' Kids into Obamacare Enrollment

New Obamacare Mandate Exemption Quietly Added

Why the White House Kept the Opt-Out Exemption to the Individual Mandate Quiet

Yet another problem: Obamacare & Medicaid "churning"

Report: $17Million a Month Spent on Obamacare Ads

"...It's called the affordable care act...It's called the affordable care act...It's called the affordable care act...and the affordable care act..." ~ Nancy Pelosi

"Wapner...Wapner...Wapner...(Caller, Laura Ingraham program 21 Mar 14)." ~ Raymond, Rainman

Biden: Obama Should Be Nominated for Sainthood for Dealing with Obamacare Questions

Green Card Holders Not Qualified for Medicare but Eligible for Obamacare

Obamacare Navigator: 'No One Really Has to Pay a Penalty'

Kathleen Sebelius: Obamacare Extension 'Is Not An Extension'

Health law penalizes 'wrong' insurance 18 times more than no insurance


First Class-Action Suit Filed

'I don't get why people are working so hard to stop Americans getting health cover' ~ Barack Obama Ex 20:15

Administration makes it difficult to cancel Obamacare plans


Where is the $2,500 in health insurance savings President Obama and Democrats promised me?


Response to comment [from a Christian]: "You're Jewish? i never would a thought..."

Supreme Court arguments to begin in major challenge to healthcare law     

Supreme Court upholds nationwide health care law subsidies Ex 20:15

Health Insurers Seek Steep Increases in Rates 

If you like your life you can keep your life: Admin revives plan once criticized as 'death panels'

End of Life Counseling

Oregon allowing 15-year-olds to get state-subsidized sex-change operations Deut 22:5, Mt 19:4

Probe: Bogus Enrollees Keep Getting Obamacare  

Poll: Only 15 percent say they have benefited from ObamaCare

White House to lay out 'next chapter' for Obamacare 

Obamacare premiums rising faster than wages

CBO Misses Obamacare Projection -- by 24 Million People

Elite Hospitals Cultivating Elite Patients

Obamacare Enrollees Sicker, Causing Premiums to Soar Again

America's million-doctor shortage is right around the corner  

Obamacare Bleeding Out: Insurers warn losses unsustainable

Nation's largest health insurer to exit majority of Obamacare exchanges

...Costs unsustainable  

Huge Obamacare Premium Hikes Planned in '17

Obamacare Funding 'Unconstitutional'  

Obamacare sticker shock: Price hikes are on the way

ICD 9: International Medical and "Legal" Execution Coding Brought Under Obamacare 

Obamacare premiums set to spike again in 2017

US Healthcare records offered for sale online  

Insurance Giants Cancel ObamaCare Expansion Plans as Premiums Skyrocket

Obamacare On "Verge Of Collapse" As Premiums Set To Soar Again In 2017   

Obamacare Website No Longer Addresses 'You Can Keep Your Doctor'

Mess: Obama maneuvering to pay health insurers billions of dollars

5 Devastating Obamacare Facts Every American Should Know

More Than 1 Million Will Lose Healthcare Insurance in 2017 as Companies Flee Obamacare

Medicare Unveils Far-Reaching Overhaul of Doctors' Pay

Hillary Wants Obamacare to 'Unravel'

Obamacare Premiums Soar

Philly: Only 2 Insurers Left, Premiums To Rise 53%   

aCultureWarrior View Post
What are your thoughts on Presidential candidate and sexual degenerate Donald Trump's plan for socialized healthcare?

It should be repealed and replaced. There are Christian healthcare options for individuals who don't live according to the flesh? Ro 8:13

Have you voted yet? I sent my off off already for Tom Hoefling (pro-lifer, Colorado).

Mike Pence: ‘First Order of Business Is to Repeal and Replace Obamacare’  

U.S. House clears way for vote to start Obamacare legislation 

Obamacare on the Ropes as House Follows Senate in Voting to Repeal  

Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan  

Trump: ObamaCare Replacement Is Ready to Go  

Trump: Obamacare Repeal May Take Until 2018  

Vid: Ted Cruz Forces Bernie Sanders To Admit Obama Lied About Health Care  

IRS Won't Reject Tax Returns That Don't Answer Health Insurance Question  

Coulter: House passed six Obamacare repeals when Obama was president! Now nothing.  

House Republicans Unveil Bullet Points for Obamacare Repeal

GOP releases bills to repeal and replace Obamacare

House Freedom Caucus Not Budging, Official Position Is for Full Repeal Alternative to Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0


Nancy Pelosi: ‘We Have a Right to Know What’s in Healthcare Bill Before It Passes’  

Aagcobb View Post
Trump should do nothing, then take credit for "saving" Obamacare...

He promised to repeal it (Ex 20:15).

PMB View Post
None of the commandments apply to Trump and never have.

I think he'd agree with you (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14, Eccl 12:13). :chuckle:

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He also promised not to cut Medicaid, which Ryancare does...

We already have a government program for low-income families--Medicaid (also theft [Ex 20:15]) :Commie:

He also promised to give us universal healthcare that was cheaper and better than ever (Prov 13:5).

He's not a conservative (Ex 20:15).:straight:

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And yet conservatives voted for and now support him (Prov 6:16-19).

I didn't vote for the swamp creature (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). No blood on my hands. :idunno:

CBO: Full Repeal of Obamacare Insures More Americans than Ryan’s Obamacare-lite Plan 

Trump Is Done Negotiating; If House Bill Fails, Obamacare Remains Ex 20:15   

Child-killer Trump Hits Pro-Life Freedom Caucus for Not Supporting Socialized Medicine Pr 8:36, Ex 20:15, Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10 


Donald Trump: Personhood Never  

Rep. Files One-Sentence Bill To Repeal Obamacare Ex 20:15  

Aagcobb View Post
The American people don't want the ACA repealed. Many of its provisions, especially those protecting people with pre-existing conditions, are very popular.

Ex 20:15

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[Ex 20:15] Silly.

Tell him that to his face (Mt 12:36). :Popcorn:

Grow up.

:yawn: Stop promoting theft (Ex 20:15, Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).

Loki replied
No one is promoting theft…

Of course you are. If the tax payer does not pay his bill, then men come with guns to put him in jail.

If you need healthcare, :listen: pay for it yourself. You’re not to go to your neighbor’s house with a gun and demand payment for your healthcare bill. :sozo2:

When government is the middleman for your theft, it doesn't make it right. Something about do not steal that you don't get? :reals: Ex 20:15

Aagcobb replied
Mathew 22:20-21 [Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's.]

Yes, pay taxes. Any tax over ten percent is highway robbery (Lev. 27:32, 33).

Aagcobb replied
[Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, Any tax over ten percent is highway robbery (Lev. 27:32, 33).] That is the tithe owed to God, not the tax owed to the government.

How much pick-pocketing would be enough for you? 90%?

"Resist the temptation to be taken care of." ~ Dennis Prager Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

First major U.S. city braces for Obamacare collapse Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10   

marke View Post
Most people favor government healthcare until they learn how much it is going to cost and how crappy the plans will be.

Most people favor stealing from others (Ex 20:15, 23:2, Ro 3:8). :idunno:
Paul Ryan: ‘Health Care Is Not Dead’  

Boehner Bashes GOP – Will Never Repeal & Replace Obamacare, “It’s Been Around Too Long”

Sens. McCain, Murkowski and Collins Tank Obamacare Repeal Bill

McConnell: After Failure of Obamacare Repeal: ‘It’s Time to Move On’  

Rand Paul: “Obscene” Obamacare Premiums Will Continue To Skyrocket

Trump Puts Insurance Companies and Congress on Notice

Sen. Rand Paul Says President Trump Planning Executive Action on Socialized Medicine 

Nation Faces Looming Shortage of 90,000 Doctors 

Republicans Sued Over Obamacare Repeal 'Fraud'   

Trump Asks Why Congress, Insurance Companies Are exempt from Obamacare Failings

Sued Over Obamacare Repeal 'Fraud'  

Freedom Tax: 6.5 million pay fine to avoid Obamacare

CVS accused of jacking up prices for insured

Chief Obamacare Architect Sacked After Fraudulent Billing Investigation

Obamacare costs for 27-year-old nearly double

Barack Obama Peddles His Junkcare – Gets Slammed on Twitter 

Trump urges adding anti-Obamacare provision to tax bill: lawmaker

Report: Trump Plans Exec Order to Unravel Individual Mandate

Obamacare Premiums Surge 

Senate Bill Seeks to Strip Obamacare Mandate   

Obamacare Premium Spikes In 2018 Now Greater Than Two Thirds Of A Family’s Wages In Some Areas

It appears Obamacare’s economic model has led to the deaths of thousands of patients with heart failure

Obamacare Set To Drive New Wave Of Hospital Bankruptcies 

Obamacare premiums as high as $40,000 for family

Obamacare mandate ‘irony’: Its ‘tax’ repealed in tax reform

Report: Medicaid And Obamacare May Be Incentivizing Opioid Trafficking And Abuse

Trump's New Healthcare Move: 'We Will Not Allow People of Faith to Be Targeted, Bullied or Silenced'  

20 States Sue Feds to Repeal Obamacare ‘Once and for All’

22K Needy People Died on a Medicaid Waiting List While 13 Million Able-Bodied People Got Coverage Under the Obamacare Expansion

States scramble to avert Obamacare sticker shock