Just-a-System  

"Today we do not have a justice system. We have just a system." ~ Bob Enyart Deut 32:4, Pr 8:15, 28:5-7

Pistorius freed on parole after 1 year behind bars for killing girlfriend Eccl 8:11

See:

God and the Death Penalty
The Bible's Criminal Code

Joran van der Sloot appears to confess to Holloway murder Ex 20:13

Anti Islamisation Firebrand Geert Wilders on Trial for ‘Discrimination’ Deut. 13:1–10

Town Heretic View Post
[Just a System, Pistorius] His case has nothing to do with it, since he wasn't tried under our system or by our laws.

Other countries have courts, as well (Ps 33:12).

Sure do. And their systems frequently differ dramatically from our own, from the system Bob feels let down by.

Bob, Jim, Joe, Clyde...

...[T]he second bit wasn't something you could lay at the feet of the U.S. justice system...

It happened in South Africa.

... the thing Bob was criticizing (and I think, mistakenly) as a rule.

...Sally, Sue, Penelope... Ps 33:12  

Jury Awards Hulk Hogan $115 Million Ex 20:14  

Town Heretic View Post

[Ps 33:12] There's nothing like the vigorous defense of a point...

"We give out the word of God. What men do with it is their business." ~ J. Vernon McGee

Let me know if you actually want to talk about the justice system here.

"Today we do not have a justice system. We have just a system." ~ Bob Enyart Deut. 32:4

Town Heretic View Post
[Repeats dialogue] So you repeated already. I'm pretty sure I responded directly to that one.  Said something like...

Ad infinitum Eph 4:14

Town Heretic View Post
I'm laughing because you inadvertently made a funny aimed at yourself.

Ad hominem (Eph 4:14)

Town Heretic View Post
So...that quote was it? Okay.

That's it (Is 10).

Even funnier...

Ad hominem

What you wrote was an ad hominem...

Ad hominem (Eph 4:14).

See:

Tactics of the Left
Town Heretic View Post
She said of her own post.  See: [Guide Critical Thinking]

I'm not here to teach you Logic 101 (Eph 4:14).
Town Heretic View Post
Aww, now you're just being cute with your ad homs.

Cute accurate

Discuss issues not people (Eph 4:14).

That will have legs when you do as you say...

Ad hominem Eph 4:14

You want to be taken seriously and advance serious issues then you have to be willing to actually engage.

Ad hominem Eph 4:14

Related:

TH Deceiver/Gossip, Small Observations Thread
TH Misquotes Me

Jury Adds Another $25M in Damages Against Gawker, Nick Denton Ex 20:14

A former judge in Arkansas is set to be sentenced in federal court Thursday after he admitted lowering a jury award in a civil lawsuit in exchange for campaign donations from a nursing home operator Is. 1:23

Father Banned from Taking his Son To Church Because Ex-Wife is Muslim Jn 8:36, Pr 22:6

LondonCalling View Post
@ ‘TownHeretic’
Easy, Tiger
Might I suggest you’re just playing here. Clearly you get it, and he/she does not. Bit rude, I might suggest for you to just keep toying with an already slain prey (whether the prey knows it or not). There’s something, at least (and if only by virtue of events), which separates us from the beasts.
The Rule Of Law.
Oh, how glorious and imperfect it is.
It’s complex, it has a philosophical root which rips religion a brand new hole to inexpertly fill; that of evidence.
But you presumably know this. Yet avoid it in order to have some fun. Either educate the guy or don’t. Toying is undignified.
@ Serpentdove
The complicated bit about any and all of this, and the bit ‘TownHeretic’ is avoiding in berating you is that the system that exists is one that is post religion.
Most legal systems, and all those in the Western world (which includes SA) are built upon the post-christian model of The Enlightenment. Namely that of evidence and the principle of Innocent Until Proven Guilty (usually as stated by a jury of one’s peers, though that is not the case in this SA trial). The principle is sound, but the results can vary due to the subjective nature of the system. Modern civilisation has judged this system as more productive than the previous, arbitrary, systems applied by religious regimes. It is a secular answer to a common problem.
One has to ask oneself what an alternative would look like, how it would be enacted, and whether it would stand up to scrutiny.
While ‘TownHeretic’ is being obtuse, he’s circling around asking how it could be done differently, in view of the fact that we do not live in a Theocracy.

Why use 25 words when you could use 294?

Prisons Become Breeding Ground for Islamic Extremism Jn 16:2

Supreme Court seeks compromise in 'contraceptive mandate' cases Ex 20:15, Pr 8:36

Los Angeles father charged with murdering son for being gay Lev 20:13

Police: Sodomite Beaten After Kissing Boyfriend Inside Miami Burger King

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

Federal appeals court tosses ‘Sister Wives’ lawsuit over Utah’s polygamy ban Ex 20:14

Manson murderer is recommended for parole Ex 20:13
Town Heretic View Post
[Just a System] ...[W]e put standards and review in place to safeguard against it and to revisit when necessary.

Standards in place of God's standards (Lev. 24:12–14, Mic. 7:3, Acts 5:29, 23:3, 25:9–11, Ac 5:29).
ok doser View Post
...[G]ood doctors carry malpractice insurance to protect themselves from all the greedy scumbag lawyers out there.

Joel 3:12–14
Town Heretic View Post
We aren't a theocracy...

Rev. 20:1–10
ok doser View Post
[Lawyer on the site] Aww, that's not playing fair.  Ask a question then delete it and answer it at the same time.


Town Heretic View Post
"The only thing scarier than Godzilla is Godzilla's lawyers." Paul Watson

Mt 10:28

Judge Handcuffs Defense Attorney In Court To Teach Her 'A Lesson' For Speaking Out

Man Charged With Manslaughter After Beating Wife’s Would-Be Rapist to Death Ex 21:16

Judge Presiding Over University Case Is Member Of La Raza Am 8:5

‘Don’t f**king shoot’: Parrot singing like a canary over unsolved Michigan murder (VIDEO) Ex 20:13
patrick jane View Post
[‘Don’t f**king shoot’ Ex 20:13] what is your deal with posting the F word ? ...

I regret he did not say Polly want a cracker?

Priest drunken shame hits Biblical proportions

...Bites, spits, punches, kicks officer

...'I'm from Vatican... going to f*ck you up'
Pr 16:18
Town Heretic View Post
My son is five. He knows how to tell me a classmate said something inappropriate without parroting profanity.

That's great. Does he know how to report a news story?

He'd understood that lesson the first time I explained it to him...

That's great. You could start a thread and tell us all about your parenting tips-- what you said...and then what he said...and then what you said again...and then what he said again.

Your sincerity is a match for your manners...

ad hominem Eph 4:14
Town Heretic View Post
You're like the kid...

ad hominem Eph 4:14

See:

Tactics of the Left

O.J. Simpson Smiles for the Camera in Newly Released Mugshot From Nevada Prison Ex 20:13
Town Heretic View Post
"Proof please" morphed into, "It's not about me"...

This thread is not about me (Eph 4:14). This thread is about the Just a System.

See:

Town Heretic

patrick jane View Post
[Fallacies, foul mouthed parrot] Maybe serpy was drinking.
Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
Serpy drinks a bit.

You said that (1 Co 6:9-10, Eph 4:14).

Gawker files for bankruptcy after Hulk Hogan lawsuit Ex 20:14

Judge refuses to change transgender man's name

Oregon court allows person to change sex from 'female' to 'non-binary' Is 5:20, Mt 19:4, Deut 22:5
Town Heretic View Post
...[S]he comes back two days later to post again about how this thread isn't about her.

This thread has been updated. Discuss issues not people (Eph 4:14).

See:

Town Heretic
The justice system, again, is a marvel of the modern world. It goes the extra mile to protect the individual ...

Is 5:20

[Just a System Is 5:20] I actually agree with the scripture, but not with your attempt to declare it applicable...

Who cares what I say? What has Isaiah written? Eph 4:14
Town Heretic View Post
You don't really understand how argument works, do you...
You're projecting again (Eph 4:14).

"Unclear writing is an indication of unclear thinking." ~ Dennis Prager Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10
ok doser View Post
the American "justice" system is a steaming pile of crap that is typically only defended by those dishonest enough to benefit from exploiting it for personal gain

Can't wait 'til they meet the judge of all the earth (Ps 96:13, 1 Pe 4:5).

Your threads are pretty much closed from the get go.



If you run across a thread of mine that was closed--that would have been done by a moderator not me.

It's not like you actually debate...

Have you ever debated? Eph 4:14

See:

Tactics of the Left

SC Man Who Infected Five-Year-Old Girl with Venereal Disease Gets 20 Years in Prison Ex. 21:16

Branded witches and cursed by spirits, Kenyan widows ousted from land Deut. 32:4, Prov. 8:15

US Supreme Court upholds practice of considering so-called race in college admissions Ac 17:26

 Supreme Court Deadlocks On Immigration, Leaving Obama's Deportation Relief Plan In Limbo Gen. 11:5–9, 2 Thess. 2:7, 8
rocketman View Post
It is a great system as long as you have the money or influence to get what you want from it.

It's a racket (1 Pe 4:5).

Woman Jailed, Kids Removed From Home After She Spanked Them For Stealing Pr 23:13
Update: Parrot may give evidence in murder trial

Trial has to be restarted after judge repeatedly falls asleep
ok doser View Post
The story she's referring to is about a parrot who purportedly heard a murdered man's last words.  How would you write the sentence without implying a profanity that's an integral part of the story?

‘Don’t [redacted] shoot’: Parrot singing like a canary over unsolved Michigan murder ?

Isn't [redacted] an implied profanity?

They can run their own race not someone else's (1 Co 9:24).

Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!
It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Running down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Running down on the edge of his garments. Ps 133:1–2
Town Heretic View Post
[] Better you were silent...

[To Crucible] ..Unlike you and the frequently banned one, lawyers don't eschew continuing education...

ad hominem Eph 4:14

Be sure to stop by my tattle tale thread.

See:

Town Heretic
Sherman View Post
[:troll: Higher levels, higher devils]

Download housekeeping 1

A few housekeeping items.

As a reminder, I do not reply to moderators.    Mk 9:41, Dan 10:13, Ps 105:15, Ro 14:4, Mk 6:11, Is 45:24, 54:17, Re 12:10, Mt 13:7, Jud 1:9

Related:


Divorce & Remarriage: A Position Paper
Lordship

Town Heretic
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[Becoming a moderator]

You, maybe?  Me, no way no how (Ga 1:10).
ok doser View Post
[To TH] I'll bet you don't get jazz either.

Getting The Rhythm ~ The Jerk Titus 3:9

4 yrs in jail, damages: Finnish man sentenced after defending against home invasion

How a robbery suspect had Nazi face tattoos removed for trial Deut. 32:4, Prov. 8:15
Zeke View Post
Town must be a Satanist...

"If you were arrested for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?" ~ J. Vernon McGee

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." ~ Aleister Crowley
[LEOs]

Flashback:

Police Officially Refuse To Hire Applicants With High IQ Scores

Related:

NWO
Zeke View Post
Wake up and grasp the system you support.

Selfish ~ Ned's Atomic Dustbin Nu 11:20

Man faces prosecution for 'insulting' Munich terrorist 

U.S. judge seeks criminal contempt charges against Arizona sheriff 2 Thess. 2:7, 8

Man, 18, Accused of Raping Classmates Gets Probation Ex. 21:16
ok doser View Post
A question that town-the-coward is too frightened to answer: link

Q. What's the difference between God and a lawyer?
A. God does not think he is a lawyer.

George Soros' quiet overhaul of the U.S. justice system Am 8:5

Anger as ex-Stanford swimmer freed after three months for rape Ex. 21:16

Montana Man Pleads Guilty to Raping 12-Year-Old Daughter, Receives 60 Day Jail Sentence Ex 21:16

Investigation Launched After Texas Judge Wears ‘Pussy Hat’ in Courtroom

UK: Sick baby to be kept on life support for three weeks as parents consider appealing High Court ruling that doctors can halt treatment Pr 8:36

Arkansas judge joined death-penalty protests on same day he blocked executions Gen. 9:6, Pr 28:5-7, Eze 13:19

Illegal aliens off hook in high school rape case

Fake Law: How Trump-hatred warps the judiciary Deut 32:4, Pr 8:15, 28:5-7
Town Heretic View Post
...[N]ot so much a case of evil immigrants raping a girl as three teenagers in need of a moral compass engaging in incredibly stupid activity.

They didn't get enough hugs from mama (Ex. 21:16).
Town Heretic View Post
Bring them up in the way they should go...

In the way Hillary says they should go? Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

See:

State Control of Your Children
[Ex. 21:16] ...I suppose hugs are a part of that...

They should get orange glazed chicken for the rest of their lives (Is 5:20).

See:

The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart

I've never been a fan of Hillary and find it odd the way so many of my friends on the right invoke her over and over.

Food-control Michelle then (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).

See:

Wide Load Wants to Control Your Food

It takes a village to take your kids.


...I'm happy to not have any real reason to think about her and I look forward to saying the same thing about the current occupier of the White House.

What will they send the First Concubine out to do? Rom. 7:2, 3 Teach our girls how to pole dance? Ps 12:8

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