How was God good before creation birthed evil?

Amor Dei View Post

...[I]t does not seem like evil would be possible before creation. 

Evil is that which is opposed to good. Everything God created was good (Ge 1:31). Pride was found in Satan, he fell and took angels and man with him. The second Adam fixes all that (1 Cor. 15:20-24; 1 Cor. 15:45). Angels are out of luck. We can be saved (Jn 3:16).  

Amor Dei View Post

I'm just looking at the question through the eyes of an unbeliever.

What they usually say (the Satanists, pagans, witches, etc.) is that God is evil because he kills babies. They stare down their noses over the pages of scripture and judge it rather than letting it judge them (Ludy). We, who have humbled ourselves before God's written text, ask why God would do such a thing and the journey begins there. You don't kill all the bad guys sooner rather than later, they spring up and kill more of God's people yada yada yada.

We side with God and his people. They side with Satan and God's enemies.  

davidbrainerd View Post
if there was evil before the creation it means there are two gods, one good, one evil.

When God declares a thing good, it's good. That's the universe he gave us. If God declared that broccoli as evil then broccoli would be evil and we'd have to deal with it.

A thing is good or bad because God says so. If one doesn't' like it, he can get his own universe.

Daniel Marsh View Post

I do not see how disobedience could exist before there was someone made that could disobey.

Angels were made with a will as men were made with a will.

Amor Dei View Post

…[I]n order to understand some measure of good you would have to be able to compare it to some measure of bad. 

Men do know (Ro 2:15); therefore they are responsible.

davidbrainerd View Post
[When God declares a thing good, it’s good.] That's too Muslim a view for me to accept. Christianity is based firmly on God in Christ actually being sensible, not an arbitrary monster like Mohammed's Allah.

Where you disagree with God, you’re wrong. He’s right (Ps. 31:19).

davidbrainerd View Post

[Where you disagree with God, you’re wrong. He’s right (Ps. 31:19).] It’s too arbitrary. The Muslim Allah declares rape and murder good

Who cares what a left-over pagan moon god--god of war declares? He doesn’t exist. :dizzy:

All of this you'd consider alright if only the title on the cover of the book was swapped.

God will reason with you (Is 1:18). :idunno: Jesus wins (Re 20:10). :juggle: You can be with the winners or with the losers. Your choice.


How was God good before creation birthed evil?