GorillaBarbarian

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Does not answer: "Do you believe in absolute truth? Jn 14:6" link

Barbarian:   "...I believe that the death we are saved from is a spiritual one."

SD:  [Do you believe in a physical, literal, bodily resurrection of Jesus?"]

Barbarian:  "I think you're wrong about that."

SD:  [Do you believe Jesus has a body?]

Barbarian:  "...Serpent questions the physical resurrection of Christ..."

SD:  Strawman Eph 4:14.  Do you believe Jesus now has a body?

Barbarian: "Already answered that...John 20: 24-28...First you question whether or not His resurrection was literal, and now you question whether or not He has a physical body."

SD: Strawman Eph 4:14.  Do you believe Jesus now has a body? 

Barbarian:  "Serpent, if you don't think He has a body, and you don't think the Resurrection was physical, why do you call yourself a Christian? Both of these facts have been accepted by Christians from the start. What makes you think either of these are false?"

SD: Strawman Eph 4:14.  Do you believe Jesus now has a body?  Yes, no, or I don't know.  It's ok not to know by the way.  That is what we are here for.

Barbarian: [SD quote:  I believe in a: physical, literal, bodily resurrection of Jesus. I have told you this repeatedly (Eph 4:14).]  "And yet you keep questioning that."

 

SD:  Strawman Eph 4:14.  A statement is not a question. I have asked you repeatedly what you believe about Jesus now. Do you believe Jesus now has a body? If you do not want to answer the question, say so.

 

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Does not answer link

 

That we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,

The New King James Version. 1982 (Eph 4:14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

 

Barbarian:  "Serpent questions the literal Resurrection of Jesus..."

 

( Strawman Eph 4:14)

 

Barbarian:   "You doubt the Resurrection."

 

( Strawman Eph 4:14)

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Does not answer link

 

SD: Would you support laws that made it illegal to say anything against Islam? Jn 14:6, Re 13:17

 

See:

One World Government/Religion

 

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Does not answer link

 

Barbarian: "...[T]he Bible itself denies that it is the sole source of truth..." link

 

[Redistribution of earned income]

 

SD: Would you support legislation that would confiscate Papa's earned income? Re 13:17

See:

One World Government/Religion

 

SD: Liberals see themselves as the victim (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).

 

Barbarian: "...[S]erpent is clinging to her belief that she's a victim." link

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself (Pr 26:4). Crazy

Understand the spirit of antichrist (1 Jn 4:2-6).

 

See:

The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test

"...[An] area of truth is the bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus--that he came literally out of that grave. Now there are those liberals and apostates who talk about the deathless spirit of Christ that goes marching on and all of that. Oh my friend, I want to tell you that the faith that we preach and believe in is the faith of an empty tomb. Never ever minimize the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

 

And then, His visible return. Jesus Christ is coming back to this earth--literally, actually, bodily, physically--Jesus Christ is coming back to this earth again..." Full text: The Portrait of an Apostate by Adrian Rogers

 


Ge 1:24

Barbarian insists he came from a monkey. 

"Homo sapiens. A primate...People are animals...God rules out the creationist doctrine...[S]ome apes are more special than others...(Barbarian)."

What reason does scripture give Barbarian to spiritualize Ge 1:24?

"Day six was Creation’s climax for it included mankind. Though man was the last creature mentioned in the account, he did not evolve; he was created.

Human life was created in (lit., “as,” meaning “in essence as”) the image of God (v. 27). This image was imparted only to humans (2:7). “Image” (ṣelem) is used figuratively here, for God does not have a human form. Being in God’s image means that humans share, though imperfectly and finitely, in God’s nature, that is, in His communicable attributes (life, personality, truth, wisdom, love, holiness, justice), and so have the capacity for spiritual fellowship with Him.

God’s purpose in creating human life in His image was functional: man is to rule or have dominion (1:26, 28). God’s dominion was presented by a “representative.” (Egyptian kings later, in idolatry, did a similar kind of thing: they represented their rule or dominion by making representative statues of themselves.) However, because of sin all things are not under man’s dominion (
Heb. 2:8). But Jesus Christ will establish dominion over all the earth (Heb. 2:5-8) at His second coming.

God pronounced His blessing on the male and the female: they were to be fruitful and increase in number. In Genesis, to be blessed was to be enriched and fertile. Such marvelous decrees of God would be significant for Israel, that was God’s representative on earth. She would enter the land of promise and would expect God’s continued blessing."
lit. literal, literally
v. verse
Walvoord, John F. ; Zuck, Roy B. ; Dallas Theological Seminary: The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures. Wheaton, IL : Victor Books, 1983-c1985, S. 1:29

Genesis 1:24, 25

"After the creation of animal life, and its impartation to air and water creatures on the fifth day, only one day of divine work remained. Animals must be formed for the land surfaces—the lithosphere and biosphere.

It is noteworthy that the record says that God “made” (Hebrew asah) these land animals; whereas He was said to have “created” (bara) the air and sea animals. It would seem, if anything, that the land animals were of a higher order than the others and therefore they should have taken a higher category of divine activity.

The reason for this apparent anomaly undoubtedly is that the act of creation (verse 21) was that of “every living soul,” not only of sea and air creatures. Since this “soul” principle was created on the fifth day, there was no need to mention it again on the sixth day. The formation of land creatures merely involved new types of organization of materials already in existence, including the nephesh as well as the physical elements. There was no intrinsic difference in the actual “making” of land animals from that of the marine animals or, for that matter, of the making of plants. All involved the same fundamental biochemical structure and reproductive mechanisms.

The land animals made during the early part of the sixth day are categorized as “cattle, creeping things, and beasts of the earth.” This description is evidently intended to be comprehensive, in so far as land animals are concerned. Very likely, the term “cattle” refers to domesticable animals, “beasts of the earth” refers to large wild animals, and “creeping things” refers to all animals that crawl or creep close to the surface of the ground.

This classification has no correlation with the arbitrary system of man-made taxonomy (amphibians, reptiles, mammals, insects), but is a more natural system based on the relation of the animals to man’s interests. Thus the term “beasts of the earth” includes the large mammals such as lions and elephants, and probably also the large extinct reptiles known as dinosaurs. “Creeping things” includes the insects and smaller reptiles, and probably also most amphibians and many small mammals (e.g., moles, rats; note
Leviticus 11:29–31).

All three categories of land animals were made simultaneously, as is evident from the inverted order of listing in verses 24 and 25. Once again, it is obvious that there is not the slightest correlation with the imaginary evolutionary order (that is, insects, then amphibians, then reptiles, then all mammals). As a matter of fact, evolution places insects, amphibians, and land reptiles all before the birds that Genesis says were made the day before.

There was no evolutionary struggle for existence among these animals either, for “God saw that it was good.” Neither could one kind evolve into a different kind, because God made each category “after his kind.”

All these land animals were said to have been “brought forth” from the earth, or ground. That is, their bodies were composed of the same elements as the earth; and when they died, they would go back to the earth. They also all had “souls,” because they were said to be “living creatures” (nephesh again). In this respect, they were like air and water animals (
Genesis 1:21) and also like man (Genesis 2:7).

The Completed Creation...

The world was now fully prepared for its human inhabitants, who would be given dominion over it. God did not need five billion years to prepare for man, as theistic evolutionists seem
to think. In fact, He did not even need the six days that He took! The reasons for taking six days apparently were, first, to stress the orderly and logical relationships between the different components of the creation and, second, to provide a divine pattern for man’s six-day work week. A regular day of rest and special fellowship with God would be essential for man’s good, and God’s example would be the best pattern and incentive for man to keep such a day.

Actually the formation of the land animals must have taken only a small portion of the sixth day. The second chapter of Genesis describes in fuller detail the rest of the events of the sixth day, events which are only briefly outlined here in the first chapter." Morris, Henry M.: The Genesis Record : A Scientific and Devotional Commentary on the Book of Beginnings. Grand Rapids, MI : Baker Books, 1976, S. 70

The gospel frees us from racist beliefs.

See:

So-Called Race   

Darwin’s Plantation: Evolution’s Racist Roots

Single Mutation Makes Melanesians Blond

It’s Not Just Black & White: Babel Explains Different People Groups

Babel explains our differences

Does 'Y-chromosome Adam' Refute Genesis?

Barbarian:  "Why should people on the left or right be defined by the worst among them? Serpent and Billy Bob no more represent the right than Louis Farrakhan represents the left. Why not leave the racists on both sides out of it? Better yet, why not just isolate them and let them fester in their own hatred?"

 

"If they are going to misuse terms like racist, then they are the villains." ~ Ben Shapiro Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

 

See:

 

Tactics of the Left

Recommended Reading:

Bullies: How the Left's Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans by Ben Shapiro